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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 09:23 AM
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That's why I'm depressed, it's not the raw number, it's the comparison. For all my mods I have a net gain of 2 hp (+5 hp, -3 ft-lbs of torque).
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
That's why I'm depressed, it's not the raw number, it's the comparison. For all my mods I have a net gain of 2 hp (+5 hp, -3 ft-lbs of torque).
what base number is this from?
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
That's why I'm depressed, it's not the raw number, it's the comparison. For all my mods I have a net gain of 2 hp (+5 hp, -3 ft-lbs of torque).
what mods do you have?
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 09:04 AM
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The base number is from the guy who dynoed before me. He has an 05 lancer (I think, might have been an 06) but it's the same engine. The only mod he had was an intake which won't do much so his numbers were a good base. We sat there comparing the graphs, we even overlapped them and as the dyno guy said, they were hard to tell apart. The only place where I truly shine is at the high RPMs.
As for mods, intake, TB, IM, fuel rail, header, exhaust, and 10:1 compression pistons.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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wow...i would atleast expect 10-15hp from those mods. i can see why you're depressed. maybe get a more aggressive cam and valve train? but for me personally, i just say boost. if you wanna make power, the 4g94 is worthless as NA. but since u got those pistons, i dunno...you'd have to lower your compression for boost.

and to the OP, my bad...i think we just jacked your thread

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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 10:46 AM
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Boost is the way to go, it's the only way to go. With boost you can hit over 200whp, with NA you'd be lucky to break 150 realistically.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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i was goin' to order the Turbo from RRM today, then i got to thinkin' what are the side effects of the turbo on my engine???so i called my cousin who is expert in cars. and he said that i might break my transmission and our engine is not specified to handle a turbo. so what you guys think bout this?
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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I believe that RRM has a Lancer, that is auto(?), that the stock transmission is handling between 250-300whp. I am about to purchase a transmission cooler for my lancer, for later use.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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Of course turboing your 120 hp engine is going to put an increased amount of strain on the engine and transmission, this is common sense. Could it cause a problem? Possibly if you plan on driving your car for another 60000 miles.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ihearthondas
also your intake and header will have to go if u ever decide on a turbo kit.
Not true. You can use a "J-Pipe" to connect a Turbo and Header.
Turbo Manifolds just seem to be a more modern trend.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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Amby,

I would be curious to see you and the car that you mention line it up at the drag strip. The only reason I mention this is sometimes a dyno while obviously being able to supply numbers, wont give a realistic feel for how the car actually drives. We see this especially in turbo cars where you cant get them to load up anything like they would on the street. While it doesnt give you the satisfaction of putting down larger numbers on your dyno day, outrunning him by a few tenths might.

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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 08:02 PM
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Amby,

I would be curious to see you and the car that you mention line it up at the drag strip. The only reason I mention this is sometimes a dyno while obviously being able to supply numbers, wont give a realistic feel for how the car actually drives. We see this especially in turbo cars where you cant get them to load up anything like they would on the street. While it doesnt give you the satisfaction of putting down larger numbers on your dyno day, outrunning him by a few tenths might.

JB
I think the car is faster, but at the same time this could just be a placebo effect, since it's louder I assume it's faster.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
The gains depend entirely on the mods you already have, how much boost you run, how good the tune is and of course how you choose to measure the gains. Some guys say they are at over 200whp while others dyno at under 140whp. It also depends on what you want. From a roll a lancer can be a beast but from a stop traction becomes a major problem.
Kungfugirl, keep it up, continue to dismiss my dyno, it really helps the lancer community.

Let's do this, you keep talking about your pathetic dyno run, I'll keep saying what some people can't see, which is that there is an expansive database of dyno number that support mod gains on this platform that prove there are gains to be had, however MINIMAL they may be. And that your dyno is likely not a good representation of the power lancers make in general. You are an intelligent man, you must see that clearly your results cannot be classified as even close to scientifically sound. (though with dyno's it is more of roulette game that science.)

Frankly i had not labeled you as someone who was capable of such a flawed thought pattern, as usually a pot can label a kettle quickly and with ease. But if you must insist on spreading the wildfire, please do, apparently I am the one holding back the community.

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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 06:57 AM
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Clean this thread up please. There is already a thread dedicated to Amby's dyno run. I only mentioned it in response to Amby bringing up he's dyno run which was used by Amby to compare FI and NA lancers... something I feel very strong against.

Furthermore, what Kunfugirl is saying is spot on. Amby, stop using your dyno as gospel. And again, to everyone, Amby's dyno is not applicable to all lancers.


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