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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 08:31 PM
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jls are good...but their are some other subs that are compared to them and cheaper.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mirage 4g93t
jls are good...but their are some other subs that are compared to them and cheaper.
JL's are the best I've heard. Well... maybe infinity subs beat em... barely though.

As far as everything else... I'm just too lazy to explain it all right now, but you should consider how many amps you are pushing on your battery//alternator before you do anything.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Yimke
JL's are the best I've heard. Well... maybe infinity subs beat em... barely though.

As far as everything else... I'm just too lazy to explain it all right now, but you should consider how many amps you are pushing on your battery//alternator before you do anything.
infinitys are not all that great. their good but their better for home theater systems.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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Def dont buy visonik unless you want cheap at medium price. Kicker, or pioneer is probably most bang for your buck. Orion, kicker, Memphis, and JL amps are best IMO.

Subs, if money is tight get kicker comp vrs. Very hard to beat for the price.
Older fosgate is good if you wanna go used.
As far as the dist. block, it is better to run a bigger cable in, and smaller cable out. Meaning if your running 4 ga. to your amp run 0 ga to the block. It is really better, but if you are not competing, i wouldnt worry about it. It is ok to ground in the same spot, or use a dist. block for that as well. Just make sure you put the same size ground off the battery to the frame as the ground wire from the battery to the frame stock, is alot smaller.
I once put 12- 12s in a 2 door civic,and hit 174. Well, i helped, wasnt my car.

If you have specific qs. PM me. Good places to shop, is www.carstereoonline.com and www.woofersetc.com I have purchased from both, and they are good companies.
JLs are good, but i beat 4 jl 15s with 4 fosgate 12s by 10 db. My personal record is 148.9db, oh yea, that was with one memphis st1000d amp and no capacitor, bigger alternator, or optima bat. either.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 10:24 PM
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P.S. the amp, sub combo matters as well as the gauge wire feeding them. I always go 4 ga. minimum.
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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if you run a distribution block upgrade the wire from the battery to the block to 0 gauge or your amps will cut out at high wattage. as for the RCA cables just buy a splitter if your not going for superb quality. i have never seen a package that sounds to good id recommend buying everything seperate.
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bene
if you run a distribution block upgrade the wire from the battery to the block to 0 gauge or your amps will cut out at high wattage. as for the RCA cables just buy a splitter if your not going for superb quality. i have never seen a package that sounds to good id recommend buying everything seperate.
i run 4 guage from my battery to the block..and 4 guage from the bock to my mtx 4-channel and alpine mono..that going to 2 infiniti kappa perfect 12's..i've never experienced a problem with cutting out or anything
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 08:55 PM
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thats good means you are not pushing your amps
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by J Money
i run 4 guage from my battery to the block..and 4 guage from the bock to my mtx 4-channel and alpine mono..that going to 2 infiniti kappa perfect 12's..i've never experienced a problem with cutting out or anything
Umm ever tried upgrading your wires??? your amp wont cut out, i just wont make the power you want. Many people dont think buy expensive wire help but yes, yes it does. Definatly use a distribution block for your amps. Run 0 ga off your battery then split it with a distributior in to two 2 ga wires.

I am a bit biased when i comes to audio system but in my opinion you cant go wrong with JL audio. If you have the money go JL for sure. I would only buy JL for car audio. But honestly go to different audio stores and check out there stuff. When is comes to audio systems there is no such thing as shopping around to much. check out every thing. Set a resonable budget and pick some think you like. systems i also recommend is: rockford, focal, mb quart, alpine and of course JL.

Remember watt is not everthing! just because you have more watts does not make your system louder or better. What ever you do dont go out and buy something with the highest watts and getting the most subs you can afford. IMHO stick with one or two subs. save the money and get high end audio equipment is better than getting 4 lower end subs. Make sure you pair up with the right amps for the right sub. And the biggest thing of all is getting the right box for the right subs. MAKE SURE THAT YOUR SUBS ARE GETTING THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF AIR SPACE. that is very important and is the key to having a great system. people think you can just get and box and it work but in audio no its not like that. Its all physics!

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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Dragon
Umm ever tried upgrading your wires??? your amp wont cut out, i just wont make the power you want. Many people dont think buy expensive wire help but yes, yes it does. Definatly use a distribution block for your amps. Run 0 ga off your battery then split it with a distributior in to two 2 ga wires.
haha 0 and 2 ga wires? you must shop at best buy and american TV to believe that crap. look Ive been an installer for 5 years. The only time you EVER need something bigger then 4ga is when you pushing 2k+ watts. Period. With a stock alt. and a stock battery like most people are going to run you will never see a difference unless you have some hustler sitting next to you screaming "hear how much louder that is!!?" no you cant cause its not. stick with 4ga wire through and through spend your money on GOOD amps that are efficient like american bass, us amps, power bass, JL, ect. A good rule of thumb for wire gauge is to look at the terminals, if it has an 8ga terminal guess what, thats what it was made for. Dont go trying to cram some 0ga wire in it and make your system look like some 16 yr did it.

use a distro-block, stick with 4ga until you have a MASSIVE system. make sure your grounds are good and bump the christ out of it!!
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 09:33 AM
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^^^Ummm last time i check you can not buy 0 ga at best buy. never heard of american tv
All terminals for good amps can support 2ga. i never did say cram a 0 ga. in an amplifyer terminal.
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 04:39 AM
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american tv is another chain store like BB that like to upsell ridiculous items to people that dont know any better. such as 0 ga wire for an 800w amp. you may be right about 2ga terminals. usually when we get an install that actually needs bigger then 4ga we just use 0ga, so im pretty limited in dealing with 2ga. and I didnt particularly mean you cramming 0ga wire in, people that dont know any better though read stuff like that and blow it way out of context and then you end up with the situation I was speaking of.
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Old Jan 25, 2008 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Dragon
Umm ever tried upgrading your wires??? your amp wont cut out, i just wont make the power you want. Many people dont think buy expensive wire help but yes, yes it does. Definatly use a distribution block for your amps. Run 0 ga off your battery then split it with a distributior in to two 2 ga wires.
the thing is i'm very satisfied with the way my my subs and all my components sound...

upgrading to 0 guage from my battery is gunna do nuthin but cost me money and time. if you run true 4 guage a system like mine is perfectly fine..the thing is a lot of ppl buy "4 guage " that isn't even truly 4 guage..its actually a smaller wire wrapped with thicker rubber, i have memphis wiring for everything

i've looked into it..i've talked to a guy that has been doing this stuff a VERY long time.and ive never found him to be wrong..so i trust him..
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