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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 04:59 PM
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So i guess we wont get to see the actual test results. Just some bar graphs that some intern made with excel. Let me rephrase or restate what we have all been asking. Do you have any tests that show real world results. ASTM testing in a lab on oil that has never seen the inside of an engine dosent tell me much. Amsoil claims to provide more horsepower also. Where is the proof of this one? Can you give me the link to that astm test?

As far as wikipedia goes. It is a much more reliable site to find information than looking through marketing pages of a manufacturer. Anyone can post anything. However if you dont know how wikipedia works you shouldnt knock it down!

As far as im concerned this thread was dead when you came in here and started attacking or contradicting everyone that said anything about an oil other than amsoil.
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 06:02 PM
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Wikipedia is not an accurate source since it's A. an encyclopedia and B. user modifiable. The issue here is not Amsoil, it's Royal Purple. Tests have shown that Royal Purple shears down to a lower weight after a relatively short amount of time. This is not a good thing for an oil to do.
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
Wikipedia is not an accurate source since it's A. an encyclopedia and B. user modifiable. The issue here is not Amsoil, it's Royal Purple. Tests have shown that Royal Purple shears down to a lower weight after a relatively short amount of time. This is not a good thing for an oil to do.
I agree with your statements on wikipedia. That is exactly why i asked the doc if those statements were correct. On the up side, it is user editable, which allows it ti be more up to date and all edits are reviewed. It is a great tool, but like many other things online, it has some minor issues.

Anyway. Regarding Royal purple. Back when i had my truck a lot of fellow truck owners were using the RP gear lube in the diff's. Does anyone know if the gear lube suffers the same problems as the oil?
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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Here is an Independent test of gear lubes.... Again, done through "Accredited" Labs.

http://www.bestoil4you.com/files/g2457GearLube.pdf

Love those results on RP and Redlne... Page 19 for end results

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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Oil Doc
Here is an Independent test of gear lubes.... Again, done through "Accredited" Labs.

http://www.bestoil4you.com/files/g2457GearLube.pdf

Love those results on RP and Redlne... Page 19 for end results

Doc
Thank you Oil Doc. This is a much better example of Amsoil quality compared to others. The report was presented as a scientific paper would be (I'm a biologist myself) and all the testing methods, focus of the test etc was clearly explained and to the point. No "this is better than that is" opinions. Just straight up results. Very nice indeed.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by YeOldeLancer


Thank you Oil Doc. This is a much better example of Amsoil quality compared to others. The report was presented as a scientific paper would be (I'm a biologist myself) and all the testing methods, focus of the test etc was clearly explained and to the point. No "this is better than that is" opinions. Just straight up results. Very nice indeed.

That is exactly what is is.... If you are a Biologist, you are familiar with the term "White Paper".

Those tests were performed by several of the Top Independent Testing Facilities in the US

Have one that shows how bad RP 10W-40 Shears as well....

Doc
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 09:10 PM
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I tried Royal Purple in my Eclipse GS-T after some STI guy raved 7 days to Sunday about it, and didn't feel any difference at all. My girlfriend put Castrol Syntec in her GTS and it literally felt peppier driving out of the bay. She's been using that ever since she first tried it, and literally immediately after the oil change, the car feels different. I'm going to be using it in my car when my next oil change comes around.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by swankin
I tried Royal Purple in my Eclipse GS-T after some STI guy raved 7 days to Sunday about it, and didn't feel any difference at all. My girlfriend put Castrol Syntec in her GTS and it literally felt peppier driving out of the bay. She's been using that ever since she first tried it, and literally immediately after the oil change, the car feels different. I'm going to be using it in my car when my next oil change comes around.
I find that quite odd if.... IF... The viscosities of the oils were the same and, IF The Royal Purple was not past it's useable life... At that point, any oil change will feel better.. Of course, RP's useable life is about 1/3 the life of what it should be as it fails to make it past the 1st Sequence of a Critical 3 Sequence test.

Don't get me wrong, I am not a proponent of RP by any means as the oil shears out of grade quickly which will usually create more HP but in turn have less protection.

The Castrol SynTec on the other hand is merely a Hydro-Cracked oil and doesn't even use a great base oil to start.

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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Oil Doc
I find that quite odd if.... IF... The viscosities of the oils were the same and, IF The Royal Purple was not past it's useable life... At that point, any oil change will feel better.. Of course, RP's useable life is about 1/3 the life of what it should be as it fails to make it past the 1st Sequence of a Critical 3 Sequence test.

Don't get me wrong, I am not a proponent of RP by any means as the oil shears out of grade quickly which will usually create more HP but in turn have less protection.

The Castrol SynTec on the other hand is merely a Hydro-Cracked oil and doesn't even use a great base oil to start.

Doc
I agree with the doc... but only this time...
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by bzzbee2
I agree with the doc... but only this time...

LOL... Stick with me and I will guide you..



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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Oil Doc
LOL... Stick with me and I will guide you..



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I might have to disagree just on principle...
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bzzbee2
I might have to disagree just on principle...

That is your right.... But after 35 years of doing this, I am use to people disagreeing.. Even though they are wrong..
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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same here royal purplle is junk i could no belive how black and ****y it was in just 2500 miles and felt like crap switched back to mobile 1 and staying there
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 06:30 PM
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I just changed my oil yesterday with royal purple and the car seems to be more slugish than before and os not reaching boost as quick as before, I will NEVER do another royal purple oil change again. I've been using mobil 1 full synthetic and it has never failed me. Definitely not worth the money.

mobil 1 ($22) > royal purple ($33)
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Oil Doc
That is your right.... But after 35 years of doing this, I am use to people disagreeing.. Even though they are wrong..
Who said anything about being right?
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