Community Tephra Tweaking
Yeah im running about 7-8* at 6 PSI WOT the car pulls real nice! Also i have my plugs gapped at .38 inches compared to most turbo guys that run at .24inches. But im getting occasional misfire around 4,000 RPM's or so every now and then, so im going to re-gap it at .32 inches and see if that will fix it! The highest count of knock i saw was 1 count at 2,600 RPM, tonite was scary tho, i was rippin down the street pullin away from my buddys car when all the sudden ***BOOM!!*** the wideband read 10.0AFR and my oil PSI droped to 10PSI and the car stalled out and died.... i put my hazards on and popped my hood expecting the worst. But i was luck, my BOV was loose and i totally forgot to tighten it when it blew off the intake hahah, i had tools with me so i put it back on, tightened it up and ripped down the street again LOL so scary i thought i blew th motor
some update:
so i was messing with IPW adder (Main) and IPW vs coolant. i noticed i got a bit
more knock thanks to flash cel. idk it could be just a coincidence.. on the other hand,
warm up cranking got a bit better.
so i was messing with IPW adder (Main) and IPW vs coolant. i noticed i got a bit
more knock thanks to flash cel. idk it could be just a coincidence.. on the other hand,
warm up cranking got a bit better.
hey guys with idle I dont think fuel or timing is an issue. I really think its the weather change and our cars ability to adapt to it.
Think about it I was idling just fine about 1 month ago prior to my build, know since the weather is more colder I think our cars dont have the proper guideline to the stepper table. So I need someones help with this. We might need to put the knock light on hold for just a second. I and hornstar are having the exact idle issues. and I think its the following
1.) either our throttle cables need to be replaced due to improper fuel/air
2.) or the idle/stepper needs to be changed to satisfy our ecus with engine temps and proper steps reagarding to idle.
If somone can point me out a website to learn about idling and motor stepping I think I can resolve this problem hopefully with yalls help.
Think about it I was idling just fine about 1 month ago prior to my build, know since the weather is more colder I think our cars dont have the proper guideline to the stepper table. So I need someones help with this. We might need to put the knock light on hold for just a second. I and hornstar are having the exact idle issues. and I think its the following
1.) either our throttle cables need to be replaced due to improper fuel/air
2.) or the idle/stepper needs to be changed to satisfy our ecus with engine temps and proper steps reagarding to idle.
If somone can point me out a website to learn about idling and motor stepping I think I can resolve this problem hopefully with yalls help.
hey guys with idle I dont think fuel or timing is an issue. I really think its the weather change and our cars ability to adapt to it.
Think about it I was idling just fine about 1 month ago prior to my build, know since the weather is more colder I think our cars dont have the proper guideline to the stepper table. So I need someones help with this. We might need to put the knock light on hold for just a second. I and hornstar are having the exact idle issues. and I think its the following
1.) either our throttle cables need to be replaced due to improper fuel/air
2.) or the idle/stepper needs to be changed to satisfy our ecus with engine temps and proper steps reagarding to idle.
If somone can point me out a website to learn about idling and motor stepping I think I can resolve this problem hopefully with yalls help.
Think about it I was idling just fine about 1 month ago prior to my build, know since the weather is more colder I think our cars dont have the proper guideline to the stepper table. So I need someones help with this. We might need to put the knock light on hold for just a second. I and hornstar are having the exact idle issues. and I think its the following
1.) either our throttle cables need to be replaced due to improper fuel/air
2.) or the idle/stepper needs to be changed to satisfy our ecus with engine temps and proper steps reagarding to idle.
If somone can point me out a website to learn about idling and motor stepping I think I can resolve this problem hopefully with yalls help.
Steven, is your car rich from the get go, or only when it's warm? It drives fine, 14.7 when in cruise?
ClixT, you had knock on startup? Those "cranking" tables ought to only affect startup I would think, and after the first few seconds of starting the car, nothing ought to change...let us know though. I'm seeing really good warm starts now, but not if I cut the car off after it's been running super rich (due to poor MAF tuning), but with my nice 14.7 idle, the car fires back up fine now.
Are you guys who are having trouble with warm start seeing a very rich AFR when you turn the key to "on" but don't start the car?
Take a look at my most recent log, looks pretty good! 6 PSI WOT, most counts were 2 counts at like 2,500 RPM everything after is clean all the way to 5,900RPM. However my IDC was as high as 109% so i NEED to install the bigger injectors. I was also able to upp the timing to 11-13 timing advanced at 5500+ RPM with no knock, so i might increese the lower loads as well, maybe to 9 or 10* advanced and do more pulls LMK what you guys think!
Last edited by Mitsu.kid.02; Dec 10, 2010 at 05:46 PM.
I think you're somewhat right, as far as temp...but I don't think throttle cables are the issue. I think that when we add a turbo, we change the "efficiency" of the engine, so it uses slightly more gas per hz of air...and that throws the values off a bit. When we switch to the evo rom, a lot of the stuff for the evo seems to be more geared toward compressed air....but on a higher scale than our turbos are putting out. I think idle issues may be able to get ironed out with MAF Compensation at 25 and below, as well as MAF Comp vs Engine temp at 170 degrees or so (warm idle).
Steven, is your car rich from the get go, or only when it's warm? It drives fine, 14.7 when in cruise?
ClixT, you had knock on startup? Those "cranking" tables ought to only affect startup I would think, and after the first few seconds of starting the car, nothing ought to change...let us know though. I'm seeing really good warm starts now, but not if I cut the car off after it's been running super rich (due to poor MAF tuning), but with my nice 14.7 idle, the car fires back up fine now.
Are you guys who are having trouble with warm start seeing a very rich AFR when you turn the key to "on" but don't start the car?
Steven, is your car rich from the get go, or only when it's warm? It drives fine, 14.7 when in cruise?
ClixT, you had knock on startup? Those "cranking" tables ought to only affect startup I would think, and after the first few seconds of starting the car, nothing ought to change...let us know though. I'm seeing really good warm starts now, but not if I cut the car off after it's been running super rich (due to poor MAF tuning), but with my nice 14.7 idle, the car fires back up fine now.
Are you guys who are having trouble with warm start seeing a very rich AFR when you turn the key to "on" but don't start the car?
idk it could be the stock lancer map coz it just sucks and i need to tune it.
it happens usually at 2k to 3.5k rpms at 40 - 70 load
also, if i put the car to "on", my nb is just blinking.
Last edited by ClixT; Dec 10, 2010 at 09:33 PM.
My buddies stock lancer I logged showed up to 18 counts at one point, and he never pressed the pedal more than 50% of the way down....he drives like a grandma. Still, knocking all over the place, going uphill, cruising, coasting...just knocks all over the place. I don't think that means that the settings are wrong, and that we should disregard them...but I think that the settings are very "one-size-fits-all" and should be adjusted until you see not much knock, like Mitsu.kid has done.
Kudos on getting it to a point where you feel good about it. How is the Auto Lancer ROM treating you, is AFR still an issue, or how have to ironed it out?
Kudos on getting it to a point where you feel good about it. How is the Auto Lancer ROM treating you, is AFR still an issue, or how have to ironed it out?
My buddies stock lancer I logged showed up to 18 counts at one point, and he never pressed the pedal more than 50% of the way down....he drives like a grandma. Still, knocking all over the place, going uphill, cruising, coasting...just knocks all over the place. I don't think that means that the settings are wrong, and that we should disregard them...but I think that the settings are very "one-size-fits-all" and should be adjusted until you see not much knock, like Mitsu.kid has done.
Kudos on getting it to a point where you feel good about it. How is the Auto Lancer ROM treating you, is AFR still an issue, or how have to ironed it out?
Kudos on getting it to a point where you feel good about it. How is the Auto Lancer ROM treating you, is AFR still an issue, or how have to ironed it out?
still waiting for at&t to send my modem....
but i did however manage to reduce my knock below 10 almost to redline...i do have a couple exhaust leaks that will be fixed soon...i decided to switch back to the stock lancer rom w/ 399 maf and use the smaller/basic maps till i get more aquainted with ecuflash...
i also think my front o2 sensor is bad
but i did however manage to reduce my knock below 10 almost to redline...i do have a couple exhaust leaks that will be fixed soon...i decided to switch back to the stock lancer rom w/ 399 maf and use the smaller/basic maps till i get more aquainted with ecuflash...
i also think my front o2 sensor is bad
still waiting for at&t to send my modem....
but i did however manage to reduce my knock below 10 almost to redline...i do have a couple exhaust leaks that will be fixed soon...i decided to switch back to the stock lancer rom w/ 399 maf and use the smaller/basic maps till i get more aquainted with ecuflash...
i also think my front o2 sensor is bad
but i did however manage to reduce my knock below 10 almost to redline...i do have a couple exhaust leaks that will be fixed soon...i decided to switch back to the stock lancer rom w/ 399 maf and use the smaller/basic maps till i get more aquainted with ecuflash...
i also think my front o2 sensor is bad
