Notices

Roadspikes Huge Map Roms

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 27, 2011 | 04:25 PM
  #16  
RoadSpike's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolved Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,805
Likes: 2
From: Sacramento, CA
Originally Posted by Green_Bandit
Great job with the ROMs Roadspike!

Question for you though. Why is the injector scaling set to 301 when the stockers are 255?
Just whomever's rom had 301 in it when i started patching is why.

Just as a note I'm not really back yet way too busy at work and in RL this summer for me is crazy haha!
Reply
Old Jul 4, 2011 | 09:56 AM
  #17  
nestoledo's Avatar
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 127
Likes: 0
From: Guatemala
EGR delete done

Last edited by nestoledo; Jul 6, 2011 at 07:18 AM.
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2011 | 01:50 PM
  #18  
4g94T's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 2,069
Likes: 0
From: California
RS, can 2 byte airflow be logged through mitsulogger?
Reply
Old Jul 11, 2011 | 01:17 PM
  #19  
RoadSpike's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolved Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,805
Likes: 2
From: Sacramento, CA
Originally Posted by 4g94T
RS, can 2 byte airflow be logged through mitsulogger?
I'm sure it could be setup its just a mut request with 2 bytes. I can't remember if mitsulogger handles 2 byte requests or not but I was pretty sure that it did.


To make that work you would need the mut addresses setup in the MUT table and the appropriate mut ID's in mitsulogger.

I don't use mitsulogger so I'm not going to be of much help sorry
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2011 | 12:36 AM
  #20  
burner67's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 726
Likes: 0
From: WA state
these look nice for autos. to bad the manuals werent this clean at least the tephra v7 it has to much extra junk. like all that alternate crap drives me nuts along with wastegate and launch and lean spool.

if i was smart enough in the xml area or whatever i would remove it myself.
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2011 | 06:38 AM
  #21  
nestoledo's Avatar
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 127
Likes: 0
From: Guatemala
preload

how I can gain torque in the exit? before I pressed the brake pedal and accelerated and the force overcame the brake, now with big map feels without force in the exit. how I can fix that?
Reply
Old Jun 23, 2013 | 06:23 PM
  #22  
Live4Redline's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 381
Likes: 2
From: Richmond, VA
Are the SD roms based on the stock lancer Map sensor? Which should be a 2 bar, yes? Edit: Stock is not a 2 bar.

Last edited by Live4Redline; Jun 24, 2013 at 02:29 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 23, 2013 | 10:01 PM
  #23  
Live4Redline's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 381
Likes: 2
From: Richmond, VA
It was mentioned to me that the 03-05 stock lancer Map sensor may only read up to 1.34 bar.

So that leaves me even more curious at what sensor these roms are set for, and how I set them up to run a 2 bar stock evo sensor? Edit: stock evo map sensor is only 1.17 bar.

Last edited by Live4Redline; Jun 24, 2013 at 02:24 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 23, 2013 | 10:45 PM
  #24  
RoadSpike's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolved Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,805
Likes: 2
From: Sacramento, CA
Originally Posted by Live4Redline
It was mentioned to me that the 03-05 stock lancer Map sensor may only read up to 1.34 bar.

So that leaves me even more curious at what sensor these roms are set for, and how I set them up to run a 2 bar stock evo sensor?
It is setup to run a 4 bar omni sensor. If you want to run a different sensor you'll need to setup the map volts to kpa table in the SD rom. Also you'll need to get appropriate logging equation.
Reply
Old Jun 23, 2013 | 11:52 PM
  #25  
Live4Redline's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 381
Likes: 2
From: Richmond, VA
If I end up buying a sensor for the setup I'd rather buy the 4 bar anyways so that works. I know the lancer and evo sensors are diffrent but not sure what size each of them is. I only need a 2 bar sensor to get the job done. I may have to test a stock evo sensor and check to see if its a 2 bar or not cause I think that would be the best bet if it is. Edit: Tested a stock Evo 9 Map sensor and it came in at 1.17 bar.

I have both the stock and 4 bar logging info already as I use them for tuning the Evo but as for dialing in a evo sensor on the lancer, can I do that from the user interface in ECU Flash or do I need to write it in with notepad edit?


And thanks for the reply Roadspike, I checked out the roms yesterday and was very impressed with all the effort you put into the automatic roms. You definitely go out of your way and I appreciate it once again.

Last edited by Live4Redline; Jun 24, 2013 at 02:28 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2013 | 01:31 AM
  #26  
RoadSpike's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolved Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,805
Likes: 2
From: Sacramento, CA
Originally Posted by Live4Redline
If I end up buying a sensor for the setup I'd rather buy the 4 bar anyways so that works. I know the lancer and evo sensors are diffrent but not sure what size each of them is. I only need a 2 bar sensor to get the job done. I may have to test a stock evo sensor and check to see if its a 2 bar or not cause I think that would be the best bet if it is.

I have both the stock and 4 bar logging info already as I use them for tuning the Evo but as for dialing in a evo sensor on the lancer, can I do that from the user interface in ECU Flash or do I need to write it in with notepad edit?


And thanks for the reply Roadspike, I checked out the roms yesterday and was very impressed with all the effort you put into the automatic roms. You definitely go out of your way and I appreciate it once again.
A 2 bar sensor is a waste in my opinion unless it was free then sure thats useful. 2 bar sensor would only allow you to run 14.5psi of boost pressure before the sensor hits the limit. As far as resolution goes even at 10 bars a sensor would still have about 0.5 psi of resolution which is more than enough to run a car and log.

Logging boost from a sensor really is logging voltage from the map sensor. The equation in evoscan has to change depending on your sensor. Thats also why you need to scale the sensor in Ecuflash for SD to fit new sensors. Its scaling the voltage to kpa in SD's case.

I don't believe i've done too much for the lancer community its really just a combination of a lot of other peoples work some of my own in included in 3d mapping and baro input.
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2013 | 03:23 AM
  #27  
Live4Redline's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 381
Likes: 2
From: Richmond, VA
Free is the keyword here as penny pinching makes my world turn.

I'm building a turbo kit for a future project and the wife got jealous so gonna slap a prototype kit on her automatic lancer. The kit won't accommodate a maf so I'm fortunate that someone's not only beefed up the automatic roms but also converted them to SD already. Looking at a non-intercooled setup with a 11psi wastegate so a 2 bar would work out great considering I have a couple of extra stock evo map sensors on the shelf. Other wise I will buying another 4 bar sensor, lol.

If it pans out that the evo sensor is in fact a 2 bar I don't imagine it'll be too hard to dial in. Voltage translates pretty easy once you know what 5v equates too. Not sure how the atmospheric pressure fits in, but ill figure something out. Edit: Tested a stock Evo 9 Map sensor and it came in at 1.17 bar.

Thanks again,

Last edited by Live4Redline; Jun 24, 2013 at 02:28 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2013 | 09:25 AM
  #28  
RoadSpike's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolved Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,805
Likes: 2
From: Sacramento, CA
Originally Posted by Live4Redline
Free is the keyword here as penny pinching makes my world turn.

I'm building a turbo kit for a future project and the wife got jealous so gonna slap a prototype kit on her automatic lancer. The kit won't accommodate a maf so I'm fortunate that someone's not only beefed up the automatic roms but also converted them to SD already. Looking at a non-intercooled setup with a 11psi wastegate so a 2 bar would work out great considering I have a couple of extra stock evo map sensors on the shelf. Other wise I will buying anouther 4 bar sensor, lol.

If it pans out that the evo sensor is in fact a 2 bar I don't imagine it'll be too hard to dial in. Voltage translates pretty easy once you know what 5v equates too. Not sure how the atmospheric pressure fits in, but ill figure something out.

Thanks again,
If you use the scaling ADC 10 bit you'll be able to see the voltage directly in the map sensor to kpa map if that makes it easier.
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2013 | 04:08 PM
  #29  
Live4Redline's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 381
Likes: 2
From: Richmond, VA
So I tested a stock Evo 9 Map Sensor (MN153281) and sadly it only comes in as a 1.17 Bar capable sensor.

Evoscan request on 38, function "0.069*x-14.214" dialed in a perfect 0 PSI with a non running keyed ignition. Keeping in mind my local atmospheric pressure is 14.214. With that I was able to log a max of 2.829 psi of boost and 11 psi of vacuum. So thats (2.8 psi + 14.214 psi) = 17.043 psi = 1.17507349 bar


I also tested my stock Lancer ES Map Sensor (MD305600), which just so happens to be the same as the Evo 8 Map Sensor (MD305600) and after testing, it panned out even lower with a function of "0.0584*x-14.214". I didn't put the sensor in today's test vehicle (an Evo IX) so i could test its limits but based on an educated guess i would say its a proper 1.0 bar sensor.

Last edited by Live4Redline; Jun 24, 2013 at 04:53 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2013 | 06:39 PM
  #30  
Live4Redline's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 381
Likes: 2
From: Richmond, VA
So for lack of something better to do today I played around with the SD rom on my wifes Lancer.

So we have a 2003 Lancer ES Automatic thats 100% stock in every way. Running the stock Lancer 1Bar Map Sensor (MD305600) with the appropriate edit change to the "Map Sensor kPa" "Y Axis Map Volts" scaling on the SD rom in the threads original post.



Made no other changes, loaded the rom onto the car, unplugged the maf sensor and the car started up and it ran great. Did a long drive and everything was smooth and noticed no issues. There is no wideband in the car so I'm estimating AFR's the old school method with a little bit of log review for reference. Its not the correct way or even the smart way of going about that so i will have to toss a wideband sensor in the car to dial in the settings and would advise anyone else who is silly enough to want to do it, to do the same. The settings how ever will get you really damn close if your interested in doing an all motor, automatic, SD setup, with the stock 1bar map sensor. Or if your maf sensor fails and you want to fix your car without spending any extra money, lol.



Qu: Just wandering but how are the air temps done on these roms? Is it off the maf temp or from the fuel temp?

Last edited by Live4Redline; Jun 24, 2013 at 06:43 PM.
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:33 AM.