turbolancer02

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Hey guys , I have some questions especially for those that have done the 2.4 swap..

I have a completely machined and nearly finished 4g64 and an evo dohc head obviously Im gonna go turbo'd as well , but considering the cost of everything from machining the block and acquiring the head and associated parts I cant help but wonder if it wouldnt have been cheaper to just pick up a 4g94 dohc head and turbo that with the same results?

I mean is that .4 of a liter really worth the extra cost? , after everything I know I can get a dohc 4g9 head for cheaper then the evo head and machining the 4g64 and I know the trans probably wont hold up at the levels I wanna see anyway ...

Im just wondering what are the real benefits over the 4g64 that I couldnt build into the 4g94?

senate6268

iTrader: (20)

Flexibility is the biggest advantage with the 4G6x over the 4G9x. There are more options available on how you want to build your engine. You can do 2.0L, 2.1L, 2.3L or 2.4L. The selection of bores/strokes are there to suit anyone's needs. The availability of aftermarket parts for the 4G6x engines is also much stronger and less costly. And although .4L might not seem like much, there's no replacement for displacement.

darkmitsu

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Here is a look at stock engines...

4g94 can be had at a salvage yard for 300-800 dollars just for the engine with a crank horse power rating of 120 HP @ 5500 rpm 130 ft lb, and you can turbo it for another 1000-1500$ and spend 1000$ on forged rods , pistons , and machine work , and your lancer will be pretty bad ***... so your talking about 2500$ in upgrades on the cheap side to your stock engine and you can see 300-350hp safely/reliably...

4g64 can be had for 400-1500$ for engine and transmission combo for your swap. with a wopping crank horsepower of 147hp , you can do the same thing turbo it and forged internals and see safely/reliably 300-350. so take the 2500$ for turbo upgrades plus the 1500$ for engine swap your talking 4000$ for a pretty sick car.

now the difference between the 2 if you have a 16g turbo with 2.4 liters behind it , it will spool 500-1000rpm faster than the 2.0 liter engine. but this can be made up for on the smaller 2.0 liter block by going with a smaller turbo , problems with a smaller turbo is they fall on there face up top because of flow characteristics. so basically you can have 200hp at 10psi at 2500rpm or you can have 190hp at 10psi at 3000rpm.

4g63t now something that dawned on me halfway thru my swap was a 4g63t will bolt up to an eclipse transmission , this means you can have a 4g63t fwd , problem here though is you are gonna spend 2000-3000 for the engine with all the goodies on it , and then rather than building the bottom end and turboing you will be building an eclipse transmission(500$) to something that can handle the power and another 1000$ for the build up of it. probably get custom axle(500$) that can handle it , and a prolly about another 500$ worth of misc. stuff and you will be sitting at 287hp in stock form and can be tuned up fairly easily to 400-450. so this sick form will run you in the nature of 5500$ just in parts for your starting point.

so long story short
4g94 (stock) free it came with your car 4g94 turbo (turbo) 1500$ can see 170-180hp 4g94 (built and turbo'd) 2500$ can see 240-350hp
4g64 (swap) 2500$ for everything should get you there 147hp 4g64 (swap & turbo) 4000$ can see 190-220hp 4g64 (swap & built & turbo'd) 5500$ can see 300-400hp
4g63t (swap) 4000$ you will probably go thru transmission and axel speculating here 4g63t (swap done the right way with all the supporting mods) 5500-6000$ and you will be sitting at 280hp with the capability to tune up to 400hp

turbolancer02

iTrader: (10)

Thanx dude thats what I was looking for , Like I said I currently have the 4g64 with an evo head on the engine stand, forged rods etc..I just wanted to know if it was really worth the effort to go through with it ...I got the block for free ,head was pricey along with rods pistons etc... I did everything myself besides machining =) wish me luck guys

bvasquez12

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any Eta for this monster

turbolancer02

iTrader: (10)

well Im currently busy thinkin up new and exciting custom stuff for www.speedcorps.com, lol

, probably lookin at june/july when I can hit the track and get some real world numbers and dyno it , But rest assured I'll do a build thread on it once it commences

So far its kinda secret as far as mods to the G64 ..lol

diyrevo

4g63t swap would be awesome. there is sooo many aftermarket parts and tuning capabilities on that motor.

mysticj

Don't forgot about the G4JS from Hyundai/Kia. They are cheap to come by. It's a 4G64 DOHC with 10:1 compression and depending on where the G4JS came from, the oil filter bracket/oil pump housing needs to be swap with the 4G64 to clear the subframe.