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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 08:32 AM
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Help me decide...........

Should I go with APC sticker on my doors (I got 4 of them), or I'm just joking?



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Here is the story:
After installing high compression pistons there was this weird engine noise someone could describe as diesel noise. Recently I have found out that it was because of the improperly gapped rings on the pistons. It's a serious issue. I guess as serious as, it's weird that my engine is still running fine, LOL.
What should I do:

1) Pay someone to rehone the cylinder walls and regap the piston rings? Keep going NA and then maybe turbo at 7psi, note everything involves tuning to keep it safe. High compression + FI is ok only with tuning.

2) ^Do everything as above but use decompression head gasket from RPW and then turbo, less tuning involved and more psi available.

3) Buy RPW's low compression hyper..... pistons and then turbo?


I'm asking this because I don't trust myself with money. Sometimes I make stupid choices and I don't want to do it again.
My money is limited since I go to college and pay for tuition. I would like to keep my lancer until it will be completely eaten by rust.

Thx for advice.

Greg
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 09:10 AM
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i liek option # 2 personnaly.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 09:54 AM
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Little update:

Is it really necessary to pull out the motor out of the car???


I called AMS and they want to pull out the motor and then work on it but it seems like it's gonna cost a LOT.
Called APG Performance and they will take a look if the pistons are making the noise or what is it. But they said they want to take out the motor as well since this is the way to do it.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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If it were me...

Walk in the door of the install shop, and demand to speak to the owner. Tell him the story and tell him he IS going to redo it, and do it CORRECTLY, free of charge. OR ELSE.

But that's just me.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 01:28 PM
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greg are u the guy whos shop shut down? i agree with rigo... i would put my foot in his ***.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 01:33 PM
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yeah man.. u paid for a job done right.... why get raped and pay more??? my vote='s Foot n ***!!
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 01:34 PM
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Ive been hearing a lot of people that buy the pistons saying that their car starts sounding like a tractor (or a diesel engine). Is it just cause it isn't being done wrong? cause I've been looking into getting pistons
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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It wasn't the shop that did the job. More of a guy in his own garage with proper tools.
Don't flame me for going for something like that, maybe I should have gone to a reputable shop. Tomorrow I will find out for sure if it was because of how the pistons were installed or if it's something else. When I described the noise to the shop they said it's probably because of the gap on the pistons rings set too big.
I did give a call to the guy who installed the pistons for me and I hope everything will be fine.

The advantage of option number 1 is that I will be making 30whp more than stock compression lancers at the same psi.
Now, I need to know what should I do since my engine is going to be in pieces anyway.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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I still vote for "make him to it right." But if you want to spend more money and mod more while you're in there, by all means.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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I do want to mod more, that's why I want to know what to do:

NA w/ high compression + FI max 6psi + a lot of tuning

Decompression gasket + FI max 10psi

I narrowed it down to two choices.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 07:43 PM
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Make the guy who installed them fix it, I have a set of high compression pistons myself and right in the box is a set of instructions that explicitly say how to gap the rings properly. When I get my car back I'll be damn sure to check for ticking cause thats when I raise hell.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 07:50 PM
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The guy who installed it is going to do it all over again. I gave him a call today and called me right back.

Now I need to know if I should order any more parts to go with the engine since it's going to be in pieces anyway??
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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Depends, do you wanna stay NA or do you wanna go turbo?
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 08:05 PM
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Read post number 1.
Either go high compression with up to 6 psi FI (note a lot of tunning is required but 30whp more than regular lancer at 6psi) OR decompression gasket with FI up to 10psi?
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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If you're planning on turboing, and want the best possible performance, why not have the high comp pistons removed, put stock ones in, and use a decompression piston so your down to like 9:1 or 8.5:1?
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