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Old May 5, 2008 | 08:40 AM
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Remote Start for GTS w/o FAST?

I have a rare GTS without FastKey but otherwise fully loaded with every option. Anyway, should a remote start be a problem for it. Yes, it's auto/cvt. I do NOT care to pay dealer prices and rates for a pretty common and usually innexpensive (relatively speaking) thing. Suggestions?
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Old May 5, 2008 | 08:44 AM
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WTF, how did you not get fastkey?
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Old May 5, 2008 | 11:20 AM
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It is not a problem without FAST key. Any good car audio shop should be able to do it. You will need to take 2 keys so that they can use 1 for the factory bypass. all in all you should be able to get it done for $2-300 all day long for a good system, locks and bypass. Just add a couple more dollars for an alarm/remote start.

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Old May 5, 2008 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by sgand
WTF, how did you not get fastkey?
They had an early batch come in without them. Dealer said that the shipment of fastkey components to the factory had been damaged or some such and they were shipping them without in order to fill demand/orders (I got mine in the first few weeks after it was released).
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Old May 5, 2008 | 11:40 AM
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I also have a GTS w/o FAST key. And considering you still have to TURN the ignition cylinder to start the car with FAST, it's not that big of a deal to me. Now, if the FAST key equipped cars came with a jolly red start button I would have been slightly more adamant about getting it...
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Old May 6, 2008 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by nunyas
I also have a GTS w/o FAST key. And considering you still have to TURN the ignition cylinder to start the car with FAST, it's not that big of a deal to me. Now, if the FAST key equipped cars came with a jolly red start button I would have been slightly more adamant about getting it...
Exactly, and with recent 'hacking' articles about FAST and how insecure it really is, no thanks anyway. Some insurance agencies are considering re-rating cars with FAST negatively, FYI. This includes Geico and SF.
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Old May 6, 2008 | 08:50 AM
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IDK if they are reratting insurance or not...but mine just dropped by a little over a hundred when they requoted me. Besides, its not like they ask you if you have FAST or not. Besides, i read into how to crack the key, and its def not easy. Besides being a cryptographer and knowing a lot about computers, you have to be within the small radius of the key fob in order to communicate it. In other words, you would be targeted by someone who doesn't like you. I didn't read the whole article, but from what I've read, its not something your gonna see any time soon. And when you do...the code junkies will update everything and will screw us by making us buy the new upgraded system if we want it lol

http://redtape.msnbc.com/2007/08/researchers-say.html
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Old May 6, 2008 | 09:59 AM
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IDK if they are reratting insurance or not...but mine just dropped by a little over a hundred when they requoted me. Besides, its not like they ask you if you have FAST or not. Besides, i read into how to crack the key, and its def not easy. Besides being a cryptographer and knowing a lot about computers, you have to be within the small radius of the key fob in order to communicate it. In other words, you would be targeted by someone who doesn't like you. I didn't read the whole article, but from what I've read, its not something your gonna see any time soon. And when you do...the code junkies will update everything and will screw us by making us buy the new upgraded system if we want it lol

http://redtape.msnbc.com/2007/08/researchers-say.html
Not sure... I saw a vid on YouTube back in Dec of 07 showing how to do it with pretty easily gotten gear. It was subtitled from russian but didn't seem too overly complex, and it could be done at a decent enough distance. YOu did have to get a scan of the user opening/starting the car once.

There was a seperate article I will ahve to try and dig up at home from my links about FAST specifically being broken and how insurance companies were reacting in Europe and Asia as well as in the US. That was in April I think. SF and Geico were mentioned specifically.
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Old May 6, 2008 | 01:29 PM
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I read more of that article. I don't think that it would be a direct target on our fast key, as it would be more an attack on all keyless entry systems. From what I read, it seems that all the keyless entry systems are outsourced to "KeeLoq". So if you had the algorithim, you could figure out how to crack it. But either way, you would have to be targeted. Like the guy said in the article, far easier to just bash the window...and quicker.
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