Notices
Lancer-Mirage Compatibility Forum For parts that can be used on both Lancer & Mirage models, post/look in here.

Lancer vs. Mirage?

 
Old Aug 12, 2006, 12:32 AM
  #16  
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (23)
 
Alchemist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Lynnwood, WA
Posts: 2,204
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
No. You're a totally different engine and platform. Yes, I am serious. G93 and G94 are about the same thing. G69 is a radical redesign.
Alchemist is offline  
Old Aug 12, 2006, 12:35 AM
  #17  
Evolved Member
 
tuffguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: CA
Posts: 778
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Same exact platform actually.
tuffguy is offline  
Old Aug 12, 2006, 12:36 AM
  #18  
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (23)
 
Alchemist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Lynnwood, WA
Posts: 2,204
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Actually, not. You're the current body style and only share your suspension with the OZ, which was a redesign from the Mirage. The ES and LS have the same suspension as the 5G 'rage.

Notice that you guys get your own forum here?

Thanks for playing.
Alchemist is offline  
Old Aug 12, 2006, 12:43 AM
  #19  
Evolved Member
 
tuffguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: CA
Posts: 778
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Actually yes. All '02-'06 Lancers share the same platform. You do know what a platform is right?

RAs differ in that we have a bigger engine and better suspension. You know, same difference as the 1.6L and 1.8L Mirages.

Own forum or not, when you see a thread titled "Lancer vs Mirage" on the front page, it just screams "Come on in!"
tuffguy is offline  
Old Aug 12, 2006, 01:29 AM
  #20  
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (23)
 
Alchemist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Lynnwood, WA
Posts: 2,204
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If you want to go ahead and compare your RA, with its lager MIVEC G69 engine and redesigned suspension with the standard-timing G94 and G93 powered vehicles, have a good time. I'm sure you'll be feeling superior in no time
Alchemist is offline  
Old Aug 12, 2006, 01:36 AM
  #21  
Evolved Member
 
tuffguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: CA
Posts: 778
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Aren't you the one comparing the Mirage to Lancers, and isn't this thread titled Lancer vs Mirage?
tuffguy is offline  
Old Aug 12, 2006, 07:24 AM
  #22  
EvoM Staff Alumni
iTrader: (88)
 
Blacksheepdj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Concord Township, Ohio
Posts: 8,733
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Originally Posted by tuffguy
Aren't you the one comparing the Mirage to Lancers, and isn't this thread titled Lancer vs Mirage?
This thread is 4 years old!

Mostly, this forum is to compare the 4G93 and 4G94 motors. If you want to feel good by saying your 4G69 is WAY faster than both, then have fun. We'll all sit back and go "yeah, we know already." Deal?
Blacksheepdj is offline  
Old Aug 12, 2006, 08:39 AM
  #23  
Evolved Member
 
bahamut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: TB, FL
Posts: 2,167
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/sp...ncer&trimid=-1

Wow, the RA is about 2800 lbs! That's more than some of my other cars (Title from the DOT): 89 S13 w/ auto = 2713. 90 1g DSM Tsi w/ manual = 2774. 99 5g Mirage LS coupe w/ auto = 2332. 00 Pontaic GA GT w/ auto = low 3100 lbs. Then, it weighs as much as my 95 S14 SE w/ auto in the low 2800 lbs.


As for the platform, in the early years of the board, ES owners here ordered some suspension parts off the 5g mirage; later, amongst the OZ owners, they confirmed that their car didn't share the same platform as the lesser model.

I have no clue on the LS. I have never seen one on the road. On the track, just once around 02. None since then. Clue might be in the bolt pattern of its wheels.
bahamut is offline  
Old Aug 12, 2006, 08:59 AM
  #24  
Evolved Member
 
GPTourer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 4,309
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
The LS has the same bolt pattern as the OZ.

When I think of platform, I think of more general terms then suspension bits and wheel bolt patterns. To me, all Integras are built on the same platofrom. People can take a base LS, and do a Tpye R conversion by swaping the drivetrain and then upgrading to five lug wheels. There aren't enough significant changes between an Es to an RA to call it a different platform IMO. They are all going to be CSXX on the plate I think. Only an Evo would be different enough to be called a different platform and that is debatable, as they are CT9A's, but still C's. When talking amongst Lancer owners I would say yeah kinda, it is a different platform, but not unrelated. To average joe on the street, I wouldn't even bother trying and just say yeah, they are all based on the same basic platform.

Last edited by GPTourer; Aug 12, 2006 at 09:02 AM.
GPTourer is offline  
Old Aug 12, 2006, 10:59 AM
  #25  
Evolving Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Jokiesmurf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Winter Haven, Fl
Posts: 338
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I raced a 1.8 Mirage with Headers & exhaust system, stick shift vs me 02 Lancer with piggyback SRI, rpw headers, ehaust system auto lost by a car
Jokiesmurf is offline  
Old Aug 12, 2006, 11:00 AM
  #26  
Evolving Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Jokiesmurf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Winter Haven, Fl
Posts: 338
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I traded in for the RA
Jokiesmurf is offline  
Old Aug 12, 2006, 11:28 AM
  #27  
Evolved Member
 
bahamut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: TB, FL
Posts: 2,167
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I see platform = chassis.

The 4 and 5g mirage (from 94 to 02) share the exact same chassis. Unknown for the 3g . . . more likely share the same chassis.

The 02 ES might be considered a crossover car from the previous generation mirage. For the 97 mirage, the G93 carried some stuff from the 96 year. I do know there is a significant change on the chassis from the mirage to Lancer OZ.
bahamut is offline  
Old Aug 12, 2006, 01:49 PM
  #28  
Evolved Member
 
GPTourer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 4,309
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by bahamut
IThe 4 and 5g mirage (from 94 to 02) share the exact same chassis.
Okay, I guess I might consider them the same chassis or platform, but not exactly the same since the engines were swapped orientation wise between them - however many things can be shared between them. Kind of like Civics. Honda doesn't pull out a clean sheet of paper each time they build a new one and some are more closely related then others.
GPTourer is offline  
Old Aug 12, 2006, 08:47 PM
  #29  
Evolving Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Evo666's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Seattle, Wa.
Posts: 458
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Jokiesmurf
I raced a 1.8 Mirage with Headers & exhaust system, stick shift vs me 02 Lancer with piggyback SRI, rpw headers, ehaust system auto lost by a car
thats because your auto slowed you down.
Evo666 is offline  
Old Aug 13, 2006, 12:41 AM
  #30  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (26)
 
ThunderOZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Newport News, Virginia
Posts: 3,897
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
so whats in the 02 lancer oz that beefs up the weight over the 01 mirage ls?
ThunderOZ is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Lancer vs. Mirage?


Contact Us - About Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

© 2019 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.