Lancer Engine Damper
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Weapon R has released an awesome new product for the true enthusiast! These dampers hold down your motor and prevent it from rocking during launch and competition use. We tried one in our Project EVO 8 and love it! One of the things that impressed us the most about the Weapon R Engine Damper is that the shifting improved remarkably. Shifting into gear during all conditions was much much smoother, and quicker. We attribute this to the fact that the damper holds the engine firmer, so the shift linkage doesn't move, and thus allows the car to shift smooth. Click here to order - $116.99 Click here for install instructions Always in stock! {thumbup} Weapon R says it will work on the regular Lancers as well! https://www.prostreetonline.com/pso/...59-111-101.jpg |
Just curious, but is this going to help more than hurt a FWD car? The engine is going to xfer the weight towards the back of the car, so bracing it foward is a great idea, such that it keeps the weight on the front wheels and gives traction. But, using an unballanced brace that attaches directly to one (and only one) of the struts is going to push that strut up and back. Also, it looks like its forcing at slightly upward angle. Wont this cause some wheel lift and pivot, making us loose traction in just one wheel and cause a zig-zaggy launch?
im no suspension expert. just curious before I throw another $100-something into handling =) |
I think where it connects to the strut housing is stable enough, but I would think it'd be better for everything to dampen the engine equally at both ends (either dual dampeners, or better mounts). Also, have they actually tested this on the Ralliart? I get skeptical when something claims to fit *all* of the Lancers, base level through Evos.
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its mounting on the cam gear casing, right? any place on the right side where it could mount? in the RA, they could also make it center-mount to the middle of the struct bar. Pushing up the struts would still be an issue, tho.
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I put an order in, will let you guys know how it goes.....
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It does not mount to the CAM casing.....it mounts to the lower engine mount. Click the link on how to install it. Seems like a sturdy mounting point. I'm curious on how it works....
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I've seen these used on RSX's. They're adjustable in the amount of dampening....also, I've never heard a complaint about these (the company that makes them for the rsx is Ingalls).
People also had said that this eliminated alot of wheel hop. |
This type of an engine mount is sometimes referred to as a "bobble strut" They are responsible for damping the movement of an engine inside the engine bay. For those worried about weight xfer, this would actually help you - it keeps the engine from rocking its weight around around inside the bay over top of the front wheels which is where your power is coming from. It GREATLY decreases wheel hop when you launch hard off of the line, keeping your power down on the gound instead of bouncing around in the air. Between one of these and some filled/stiff motor mounts, it makes for a much smoother power delivery, especially off the line. And if all you do is replace the strut, it doesn't even add much vibration to the cabin while still keeping the engine-rock at bay.
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SO, your saying that this is better that getting filled engine mounts? I was going to get the filled mounts, but then I saw this. This seems like an easier solution as far as install goes. But, is it comparable to the filled mounts?
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it's not as effective by itself as a set of filled mounts, but doesn't transfer as much vibration to the cabin either. IMO filled mounts are worth it, they are quite effective at eliminating wheel-hop and since I actually like to feel my engine running, the vibration doesn't bother me either. It's not that bad, especially since the 4g69 has balance shafts - my motor does not.
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I just think the torque dampener is more worth the money. To do the mounts would be a royal pain. The TD you can do your self in your driveway in about an hour at most.
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doing mounts aren't that hard either. Get a jack under the motor (with a wood block on it so you don't jack up your oil pan) and hold it in place as you replace the mounts. The only difficult one should be the transaxle side, and it's the front one that matters the most anyway.
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there is a howto on fulling the mounts on the OZ somewhere on here. I bought the filling compound, but havnt been able to spot the mounts, yet. I may consider this mod once I get the mounts done, since I already have the stuff =]
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I've heard if you do the mounts the vibration through the car is horrible and can be very annoying. Hopefully this damper doesn't cause to much vibration.
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BLK-MAJIK: what did you buy to fill the mounts?
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Can we get any confirmation that this will work on a RA (I.E. Picture)??
I looked in my engine bay last night and it looks like the angle from the strut tower brace to where it mounts to the engine is different. |
majambo: windo-weld by 3m. its a eurithane-based cauke. comes is a cauke tube. can get it at most auto stores. dont get silicone-based stuff, tho. make sure its urithane, as this will give a pretty hard, but not rocksolid ride. i started a thread about it a few weeks ago under ralliart general. do a search for it to keep the vendor thread on topic =]
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Originally Posted by Daddymac
Can we get any confirmation that this will work on a RA (I.E. Picture)??
I looked in my engine bay last night and it looks like the angle from the strut tower brace to where it mounts to the engine is different. It looks like it will fit though. |
Any update on this yet Adam??
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Doesn't fit.... I didn't look hard enough at where it mounts, our engine sits lower than the lancer es/oz and the evo. I'm making my own mount for it eventually.
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DIY filled mount it is then....damn I wanted this part
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When I saw this I thought ok, so I looked at the instructions, then I looked at my car ES Lancer. The distance betweent the strut mount and where they said to put the motor mount was not like the photo. In fact the angle was so steep I knew it couldn't work. You'd have to make a bracket that is quite tall to make this thing work. I think a center mount would work also. I asked my dad who used to build stock cars about this. He said they used to use chains to hold the motor down. Only real drawback as has been stated is the vibrations are amplified.
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Adam, my advice is to sell it......its really too bad about it to....they work VERY well.
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Originally Posted by AdamRA
I've heard if you do the mounts the vibration through the car is horrible and can be very annoying. Hopefully this damper doesn't cause to much vibration.
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has anyone accually purchased the daper? well is so give us some input on it i am interested in this
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I believe Adam bought one and said it doesn't work w/ the supplied mounts b/c our engine sits on a different angle the the evo's.
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the way they have it working (from one side of the motor) I'm not quite sure it'd be that effective either. I think it would work better mounted on the centerpoint of the motor.
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AdamRA - you shouldn't have to sell it, rather just return it and get your money back. They posted in here saying it'd fit your car, and it doesn't, so they're in the wrong.
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Originally Posted by AdamRA
Doesn't fit.... I didn't look hard enough at where it mounts, our engine sits lower than the lancer es/oz and the evo. I'm making my own mount for it eventually.
We would be glad to refund you your money if this is the case. And if so, I would like to apologize to everyone. I thought we had a great product here that would benefit the N/A guys as well as the turbo guys. We will pay for your shipping back to us as well, or we will schedule UPS to come by and pick it up. Please let me know at alex@prostreetonline.com Thank you Alex |
Originally Posted by prostreetonline
AdamRA - This WeaponR damper does not fit your car? If this is the case, please let me know. I specifically called Weapon R about this, and they told me it would fit, and we could sell it to our customers. We never test fit it ourselves on a customer car with a Lancer, only EVO.
We would be glad to refund you your money if this is the case. And if so, I would like to apologize to everyone. I thought we had a great product here that would benefit the N/A guys as well as the turbo guys. We will pay for your shipping back to us as well, or we will schedule UPS to come by and pick it up. Please let me know at alex@prostreetonline.com Thank you Alex |
I've got an idea. You can buy adjustable steering dampers in any motorcycle catolog for about 50.00$. MAKE YOUR OWN BRACKETS AND SAVE SOME DOUGH.
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That requires things like a garage and welding/cutting equipment, neither of which I have.
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i have access to wielding / cutting equipment, but how many would wnat to buy it though
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I'd buy for a good price
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Any updates on this?? Has anyone tried making a mod to allow us RA guys to use this?
To the author of the thread...have you made an enquires to the manf. to see if they can produce a engine dampener for the RA guys? |
I sooooo want one of these! I wish someone would design some custom bracket to make it work for the RalliArt engine!
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What's up with those? Has anybody figured this out already? Daddymac pointed me to these and I may be interested... I really hate the wheelhop I'm getting. - |
Any word that it FOR SURE fits the regular lancer? 4g94?
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I'm up for It. .
Alex, Can you possibly see if you can get either mounts for this or one that will .. i'd be all about it. |
Originally Posted by DiamondWhite
I'm up for It.
Yeah! {thumbup} Let us know how it went and what the difference is (if any)... - |
Originally Posted by WoRkZ
Yeah! {thumbup}
Let us know how it went and what the difference is (if any)... - |
I mean if they get good mounts built or a different dampner.. i just emailed Weapon-R about our application.
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Let us know what they're response is.
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good luck finding a damper for $50
they go for over $100 on ebay -joe |
No.. it would have to be custom made.
We do not plan on making it a production item. Leo Now Vice President Rev International Ltd. AIM: WEAPONRUSA SKYPE: WEAPONRUSA DBA: |
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I have been looking hard for a product like this and have not found any...hopefully we can figure something out so bad for the ralliart as well. I was thinking about it as well, and i noticed too that it was deeper then the evo engine. Everybody start throwing ideas in. I wqas thinking about either a crossed one that looks like ^ <----- this...or maybe something like the hydrolic system form a door. Of course modify it alittle bit and refill it, its kinda hard to explain. there is plenty of ralliart drivers here that we can figure something out
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EDIT: PM'ed quick-shot instead of hi-jacking this thread!
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weaponr = crap
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Originally Posted by vkeven
weaponr = crap
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