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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 07:25 AM
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Angry Bad/Rough Idle Thread

Im tired of weeding through all these posts about bad idles when they all say the same thing:

Change your plugs
Changes your wires
Check your air filter
Check your o2 sensor

So what can be done after those things have been done. Whats the next step and where can I find resources to help me accomplish this next step. I need info that either nobody has or is willing to share. Chiltons doesnt make a manual for lancers. The only place I have found to get a repair book is the service manual from and of course they want a hefty sum for it. my next step was going to be checking the intake side for any vacuum leaks. which is hard to do if I dont have a diagram to find out what hose goes to what. so final question:

Does anyone have a copy of the service manual that would be willing to help me and fellow owners from this headache and heartache?
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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You most likely have a vacuum leak but if you did your check engine light would come on.
I had a vacuum leak, pulled up the code at Autozoo, and checked all my hoses. My throttle body gasket was bad so I replaced it.
Your MAF can also be bad since your idle is rough.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 06:13 AM
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K well...No vacuum leak CEL and Ive already replaced the MAF. havent replaced the TB gasket though. Guess that wouldnt hurt.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 11:01 AM
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here is a link to torrent's for the service manual. download at your own risk.

http://www.baydownloads.com/search.p...epair%20manual
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 05:57 AM
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ok bad news about that site...you have to pay for a membership with them to just download the torrent. In which case, do you even know that this torrent works?
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 07:13 PM
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Ok so update:
Since Ive had some extra time today I hooked the codereader up and pulled the codes to see if it was throwing any new/different codes. Of course not. Just the "Warm Up Catalyst Below Threshold" which is the same code that it has been showing since I gutted the first cat. I know that is a common code when you install an aftermarket header.
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Old Feb 16, 2009 | 05:44 AM
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It does sound like a vacuum leak. Did you try spraying carb cleaner around the engine compartment and listening to changes in the idle?
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 07:23 PM
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UPDATE: so today while having one of the worst days ever, the car started to go into one of its tantrum modes. "NO! I dont wanna idle!" I digress. I get home, throw the scanner on it and viola. New Trouble code...P0172: System too rich (bank 1). Well DUH. Anyway, havent got a chance yet to try the carb cleaner/vacuum leak test yet, but it does sound feasable. I will let everyone know how it goes/went.
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