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jherrer3 Dec 27, 2013 12:43 PM

Lancer ES Won't turn on. Need help!! Please :)
 
Hello Everyone,

I have a 2002 Lancer ES. When I was driving it overheated and shutoff. Right now I'm working on getting it back in working order since it will not turn on. Here is the list of what I have already checked and done.

I checked the oil to see if was "milky" in case the head gasket blew...the oil was fine.
2. the plugs and wires are new and they are all giving spark (checked each one of them)
3. Checked my fuel pump, there is no power running to it but I rigged it up to get power and it's working.
4. Checked all my fuses, they are fine
5. The timing belt is in working order.
6. I used starting fluid to get the car on but that did not work

I'm not sure what else to check. If anyone has any other suggestions or ideas on what to check to get it started I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks in Advance :)

eusgen Dec 27, 2013 04:19 PM

You say it overheated? did you find out why?

jherrer3 Dec 27, 2013 06:08 PM

I'm not sure why, it hadn't had that problem before. It's winter here now so it's very cold. Only thing I'm wondering is if I had enough coolant in it

Thahomeboyb Dec 27, 2013 06:33 PM

Hmm that's weird even tho you looked at the spark plugs maybe you need new ones . Are you sure it over heated? But def . Check the coolant

jherrer3 Dec 27, 2013 06:37 PM

Yep, new plugs and wires. Even replace the valve gasket and rings because there was some oil in the spark plug wells. I filled the coolant but nothing. I get a crank but it doesn't turn over

Cal City Evo Dec 27, 2013 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by jherrer3 (Post 11064857)
I get a crank but it doesn't turn over

If you are cranking it is turning over. Which is it?

Even if you overheated it it should still run depending on how badly you did it.

Judging from your post though your motor is toast.:lol::lol:

hamburger_train Dec 27, 2013 07:11 PM

How low was the coolant? It's possible your water pump is seized.

jherrer3 Dec 27, 2013 07:19 PM

Hmm it was pretty low. Could that affect the start up?

jherrer3 Dec 27, 2013 07:48 PM

Lol it's turning over.

Thahomeboyb Dec 27, 2013 08:07 PM

Glad to hear that

jherrer3 Dec 29, 2013 08:20 PM

Update!

Check the compressions today:
1: 40 lbs
2. 5lbs
3. 30lbs
4. 85lbs

So bad lol.
Water pump was fine and there was coolant coming out the wells when I was checking the compressions. I'm pretty sure my head gasket is done. Any other conclusions anyone would like to make?

02-Lancer-Es Dec 29, 2013 08:29 PM

Pull the head and make sure nothing else is bad , but on these motors its cheaper to replace the entire motor . Usually cost $300-400

jherrer3 Dec 30, 2013 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by 02-Lancer-Es (Post 11066495)
Pull the head and make sure nothing else is bad , but on these motors its cheaper to replace the entire motor . Usually cost $300-400

Gotcha. I'm curious. Where do you think would be a good place to start to look for a new motor?

eusgen Dec 30, 2013 07:36 AM

with compression that bad I would take the head to the shop and have it inspected (could be as cheap as $40)... if all is good get new head gasket, NEW HEADBOLTS, and reinstall :)

if you have never done a head job and know nothing about timing, make sure you do research. Try to set the timing to where it should be (I use a 22mm socket to turn it from the crank pulley bolt) BEFORE you take it apart so when you go to put it back together its a one step process.


Originally Posted by jherrer3 (Post 11066752)
Gotcha. I'm curious. Where do you think would be a good place to start to look for a new motor?

You can start here: www.car-part.com

Replacing the entire motor will require a few extra tools than the head (which can be lifted off by one person with intake intact), more than likely a cherry picker will be needed, and something to support the transmission while the motor is out

jherrer3 Dec 30, 2013 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by eusgen (Post 11066774)
with compression that bad I would take the head to the shop and have it inspected (could be as cheap as $40)... if all is good get new head gasket, NEW HEADBOLTS, and reinstall :)

if you have never done a head job and know nothing about timing, make sure you do research. Try to set the timing to where it should be (I use a 22mm socket to turn it from the crank pulley bolt) BEFORE you take it apart so when you go to put it back together its a one step process.

You can start here: www.car-part.com

Replacing the entire motor will require a few extra tools than the head (which can be lifted off by one person with intake intact), more than likely a cherry picker will be needed, and something to support the transmission while the motor is out

Thanks so much. That helps a lot. I'll make sure to do my research. Any idea as to where I could find the proper timing for this motor?


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