Ah ha ha ha ha.

 

oh man, ur killing me. econo box, thats funny.

i guess the evo is an econobox that the s2000 will never be able to keep up with.

first lets talk about how overpriced the s2000 is for what your getting, then lets talk about a BALANCED car. Comon, this started as s2000 vs. sky, don't turn this into a stupid fight. the s2000 is in a completely different class than the evo. not to mention the evo is one of the most balanced cars ever made.

 

Wow, another guy that has to be a ******** to make the sky seem like a better car. good for you.

 

ok.....hmm track cars, i see s2k's all the time on the tracks, but i've yet to see any saturns running at the track

 

Yeah, I can't wait for the day I see a turbo saturn go flying by me on one of the local mountain roads here in tucson

 

The 2000 is displacement, not year. The AP2 models ('04 and on) should be S2200, although AHM has shown absolutely zero interest in the heritage of their best models (i.e. renaming the Legend the TL).

 

That's a very bold statement. Their ergonomics group is still years behind Honda and Toyota, and GM as an organization still works with suppliers on a cost first quality second basis. So while some models may have better interiors, it still remains to be seen if they can match what Honda and Toyota sell.

 

s2k all the way!!!

 

Back that statement up, please.








Can't? It's not. It's a front heavy (60:40) car that is understeer biased from the factory, and needs a fair amount of suspension work to be balanced. Using the throttle to correct understeer is not the same as being balanced.

 

I'm not sure I agree.

The '91 NSX was an incredible car and a true value as a supercar. For $62,000 you got an aluminum supercar that was competitive with the 911 ($95k for the turbo), F348 ($117k), and faster than anything domestic. It was also reliable, comfortable for extended trips, and stood out from the crowd, even looking better than the Ferrari.

By '97, when the 290HP 3.2L came out, the NSX had ballooned to $88,000 (for much the same car), the F355 (at $125k) had 375 HP and better looks, while the 911 had caught up in terms of speed, power, and looks without going up in price. Granted, the NSX still had reliability and everyday usability on its side (looks at that point are arguable - personally I find the F355 to be one of the best looking cars of the era). Also, the Viper was available in coupe form, and the C5 Corvette was released, providing domestic alternatives for that level of performance.

A similar trend is happening to the S2000, though not to the same degree. Is this a good thing? I don't really think so.

 

thank you!!!!

 

i don't think he was referring to the balance of weight....rather everything the Evo comes with as a package. performance + practicaliy + price tag = good balanced car...i think that's what he's trying to say.

at least i hope so

 

Laugh all you want, it will just make it all the more funny when it happens later this fall. Then the Saturn guy will be laughing, with $5000 more dollars in his pocket, and a faster car. Have fun in the Honda you paid too much for until then though.

 

I will have fun in my honda. For that matter I would have paid more than I did to get my honda because I love that car. In any case no saturn will ever be able to keep up with me on a mountain road. In a straight line........ Maybe. But if one goes by me on the road I'll just laugh right back at him for driving that rediculous looking thing.

 

I love how everybody is slamming this car before it's even released. I agree Saturns have been boring and lacking from the beginning. However, Hondas don't exactly excite me either. I personally think they're boring looking. I compare Hondas to "a girl with a good personality"; not much to look at, but you can count on her. Take that for what it is. Anyway, why don't you wait and see how the car is before dismissing it.