Some of you guys calling it a Neon, fast Neon, etc. People could just as easily call your Evo a fast Lancer.

Your SRT-4 looks good. With 11k left on it, I would get it paid off and then see what your feelings are on it when you get the title in your hands. If you still like the car then keep it and do some more mods. If you feel like you want something else like and Evo then go for it.

 

There IS an evo complex. He posts pictures of his car, and look what this thread has become- you saying that you'll "spank him like a newborn". Your car costs $10k more than his and is awd, I'd certainly hope you'd be able to.

 

Don't speak for Evo's owners. All my friends own them and they do not act like you. You are speaking for yourself. You need to stop reading Motor Trend.

 

Yawnnnnn...Dude you asked they answered.

Yes my Evo could have the same power like David Buschurs but guess what it isn't .

If all you can have now is the Neon then so be it but if you can swing a used Evo and not be put out much for it then do it.

I know this is not what you were asking for but comparing an SRT4 to an Evo screams stupidity. Just don't go following an Evo into a wet corner

 

Just remember taking things personal doesn't change anything. I am not downing him personally. I am just stating that the neon SRT-4 is what I don't care for. If you don't like it, don't insult the evo because that is your way of venting. If you like the car, keep it. If you decide you want something else get it. It still won't change the fact that to my eyes that the car is garbage. You can call the Evo that if you want, but who is really going to back you up on that statement. Reliability = normal maintenance, taking care of your car, and not abusing it and making sure you build your motor to support the mods. I know mine will be reliable because I take care of it. And as far as someone laughing at me, the only way that would happen would be if I traded my evo for a SRT-4 then tried to defend my choice. Not trying to argue about this anymore, because it is basically a matter of opinion and personal preference so it will just go on forever. Nobody's right or wrong so just leave it at that.

 

Technically I didn't initiate a comparison, and nobody challenged him to a race. He brought it up. I am not speaking on behalf of evo owners. People are speaking about the evo in general and our supposed complex. I don't have a complex, and hope that's not a common trait of other Evo owners.

 

Dade County, maybe you should go back and read Motor Trend or Car and Driver some more. I doubt that they top rated car is the evo. Now then, according to your logic (as you have displayed here) the only car worth owning is the one that dominates. Logically then you should not be driving an evo but should instead be driving a Ferrari/Veyron. Somehow I doubt you could afford it though or you would probably be on another car forum bashing the evo as a rice rocket/boy racer car with clutch problems and no top end. Not everyone can afford a 30000$ car with high maintenance costs.

 

You are confused my friend. Motor Trend will tell you that for the amount you spend on an evo or sti, and the performance you get is well worth it. Does it compete with cars 2 to 4 or more times it's cost? Yes. Does that make it dominant? Yes. Does that mean it is the best car on the road? Hell no. But if you can really research and understand the potential of the Evo, you can be proud to say that you own such a car. Yes mitsubishi does have some maintenance problems. But honestly if I had more money than I do (which isn't that much), I think I would still have my Evo. I am proud of it, and love it. If he loves his car, he can keep it. I don't hate him for it. I just told him what I thought. Don't get too defensive. I admire alot of other cars. Dodge has some great cars. I just don't like the SRT-4. Sorry, bash away.

 

That does not make it dominant, that simply makes it a good car. The fact remains however that it is not the top car in any category whether it be performance, handling, luxury, rarity, etc.. Car and Driver ranked the evo second behind the 350Z, thus according to them the evo does not dominate. Many magazines say the same thing about the SRT-4, for the price it is an amazing car, capable of competing with cars costing 10000$ more. I don't even see where you are getting this hatred of the SRT-4 from, you sound an awful lot like my friend who bashes them all day long even though he has neither even been in one let alone driven one.

 

Well, I just happen to have that magazine, and yes you are correct. I just don't like the car plain and simple. I think it is junk and feel even cheaper than the evo's interior and ride. Which I didn't think was possible. If an Eclipse owner bashed quality of the Evo's interior, I would have to agree. I have rode in a couple and drove a couple. If you didn't like evo's I would tell you to do your thing. But at the end of the day, I am don't need to defend my car. You own one and you will see just why I am proud to have one.

 

Dade County, you made some seriously ignorant comments, about the SRT-4 from a dead stop? I don't see you bashing turbo civics that cost $1-2,000 from an old lady that where built up to make over 800whp... those are front wheel drive econo boxes too. You then speak of price and what you get FOR that price and how it is amazing compared to what you can spend on another car? Then you use that as if relivant to your defense that the SRT-4 sucks? Name something that does what it does FWD or not for even close to the price and if you think that the SRT-4 can't take an EVO from a dig you should tell that to my friend who with just an AGP WGA tuned at 18PSI ran a 13.3 against a Buschur Stage 1 EVO that put down a 13.6... the SRT-4 had stock motor mounts and stock wheels.

You talk about your AWD launching abilities as if you have all the facts of racing down to a science.... it may do well but I guarrantee that most will agree that the EVO/STi is NOT A DRAG CAR! and in stock form can lose to an SRT-4 from a mild roll even... as Sport Compact Car said... it's not as well rounded and refined as the EVO/STi but it doesn't COST $30,000+ either. You have "It's a neon" and "Its FWD" as your case why the EVO is so dominent over the car... you started the bashing when you forgot to notice I clearly stated I'd MUCH rather have an EVO over an SRT-4 ANYWAYS. Numbers don't lie, the fibbers do the numbers and if you say stuff like ...

"In the tuner world the SRT-4 is a cheap joke"

a cheap joke that can put down over 500whp on stock internals eh? a Cheap joke that has been owning the FWD Circut against it's competitors for quite some time now eh? I simply offered comparison because in the end you may drive and EVO, and I may drive an SRT-4 but if you use all this alleged factual crap to support your case, you must use it for both sides and the SRT-4 happens to be one of the more dominant tuner cars in its segment. Please tell me what front wheel drive car can compare dollar for dollar in what it does AND can play with AWD cars and RWD cars?

RSX Type S? $8,000 after turbo kit, LSD, supporting mods and tuning gets you low 13's...

You would have to put a total of $30,000 into a Type S including the cost of the car new to amount to what an SRT-4 can do with a $150 Waste Gate Actuator, a TBE and some springs! lol... I love EVO's but this guy doesnt deserve one... Thanks guys for the support I tried to keep this cool but when ree rees like this guy come talking about his all mighty unbeatable car and comparing mine to a 120whp front wheel drive crap box I have to put some things in place....

YUP it's a Neon but I look like less of a tool as a real enthusiast driving that NEON than you do being a jackass and driving an EVO. Respect to your car but if there is none given to you, you are just as useless as my piece of poo poo daimler chrysler hunk of crap that can't launch FTW. Need a new clutch, transfer car, or tranny yet pal?

 

Wow, just wow.

First off, let me say I came very close to trading my Lancer OZ in for a SRT-4 in college, and to me they represent a great performance value.

Second, the Evo is a performance car based on a cheap platform, exacty what the SRT-4 is. Does the Evo differ more from a base Lancer than the SRT-4 does to a Neon? Yes, but seriously we are splitting hairs. Cheap platforms with big thrills, the both of them.

Yes there is an Evo mentality, an Evo Ego if you will. And its that ignorance, which is demonstrated here every day, that has me contemplating a trade in for a Lotus Elise. Honestly, the Evo is a car, not the holy grail. And the funy part is of the people that talk the most crap probably have never brought their Evos to a track day, autocross, or anything else. Sad.

(Just for reference, I do visit SRT forums a bit, and you SRT-4 owners have to admit there are a number of toolbox owners on there as well)

 

Yeah you really told me. Hey I think everyone should pile in your car and you can take us to Chuck E. Cheese. Maybe we can just end this by saying that you car is far superior to the evo. That would be the reason I will probably just find a SRT-4 to invest the money you have invested and be proud to say I have a fast car. The person that should really be ashamed is you. I never bashed you. I do think you are an idiot, but up to this point I never said it. I am just trying to get you going. Is the evo or sti a drag car? No. Is yours? Did someone imply the evo or sti was? No. Did you see the video on Streetfire of the 500hp neon running in a cloud of smoke?... 30,000 dollars on the RSX? If I owned one, I would be insulted. Where are you getting your parts from? I think you may need to stop defending and start coming the realization that nobody is bashing you, just the car of choice. What you need to do, instead of arguing, is go figure how you are going to justify trying to bash me when I never insulted you, just the piece of crap SRT-4. For what it's worth, it wouldn't have mattered who posted their pics on here. You or anybody else for that matter. You have, if nothing else insulted evo owners. You insulted me is just getting yourself worked up. I know what's in my driveway.

 

Tristar I totally agree with the cheapness of both cars. I complain everyday how it rides. I say it's like riding in the back of a wagon. I love the performance of it. I don't have an ego at all. I just responded when it was addressed that there was a comparison, and an attitude among owners. Just let it die. Nobody is going to win the arguement.

 

Your kidding, right? You spend this whole thread in a pissing match with the SRT owner, put in your last 2 cents, then tell ME to let it die? That Elise looks more logical every day...