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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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Its not desperate. Some guy posts that the SS has beaten the Evo around "many" famous tracks. I understand "many" to mean more then one. Proof was asked for. I've not heard of more then one and I didn't buy my Evo to leave it stock, Nsomniacs response sounds valid and far from desperate to me.
Laguna Seca and the track used for the Lightning Lap.
Here's the proof you wanted.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...008_feature__1
http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=137263
http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...ing/index.html
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 01:45 PM
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With all that's going on with GM and with them disbanding the High Performance Vehicle Team, it will be interesting to see if this sees the light of day.
People have already ordered the kits.

However, it will still mean talking about a modded Cobalt which is still hypocritcal when people talk about modded Evos and it still doesn't mean the Cobalt SS has beaten the Evo X on "many" venues and comparos.
I don't really see how it's modded when the parts are engineered, made, tested, sold and installed by GM with the factory warranty in tact. They even say the kit doesn't affect driveability in any way.


So far there have been 2 test featuring the SS and X. In one, the X was a tenth or two faster. In the other, the SS

Nice Try.
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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CandD testers don't know how to drive a car with a high spool threshold, and thanks robut for helping me keep my thread on topic





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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 01:56 PM
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Sorry, I assumed the topic had degraded into yet another "oh my god, a car that offers what the Evo offers?! How can that be?!" thread.
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 02:01 PM
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I would shave the SS badges and go with some 17" cheapo rims once the tires are worn out. Assuming they fit, but they should since I believe it runs the same brakes as the Evos did. Black out the tailpipe, magic marker the SS off the seats and spray the IC and the brembos black too. I want a total sleeper. Like a new school GNX. Screw it, I am going to go test drive it and see what they will offer for trade in.
17" wheels would be a downgrade, the 09 cobalts come with 18's...
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 02:14 PM
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Jesus, a factory installed NLS feature? Now that above all else is astounding. The concept of NLS itself I would think would make manufacturers not offer it. Damn, still wrapping my head around that.

I also find it humerous that they say the kit "pulls all performance possible" out of the motor and it only adds 30 hp. LAME. I'll bet you could get way more than that and still be CARB legal.
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 02:20 PM
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Other tuners have got a lot more out of it, but there really isn't a reason for GM to try and get more. They'll probably sell every kit they make and keeping the power reasonably "low" will help prevent any chance of people damaging stuff.
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ripnbst
17" wheels would be a downgrade, the 09 cobalts come with 18's...
ORLY? Size for size's sake is not always an upgrade performance wise. And I have stated the reason I am considering it is to debadge it and build a sleeper
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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I think I am going to do it. I just need to find one with the right options and no miles

The rumor is that they stopped production until June

If I get it, I will take it to the track and see how I do vs my evo
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 06:50 AM
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I can't get over the 2 antenna thing, 2! They airburush out the am/fm antenna in a lot of the marketing pics, because they know how bad it looks. Absolute dumbest thing I have ever seen.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 06:57 AM
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A guy around my way has a silver turbo one with hard pipes, intake, exhaust, etc. And Honestly the thing runs pretty hard! I say go for it...It might not be the best looking car in the whole world, but it performs greeaat!
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by E. Haskell
People have already ordered the kits.
That's wonderful. Looking foward to seeing what a modded SS can do.

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However, simple math is not your specialty. I suggest you look the word "many" up in the dictionary before you "try" again.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by coffeeslug
I can't get over the 2 antenna thing, 2! They airburush out the am/fm antenna in a lot of the marketing pics, because they know how bad it looks. Absolute dumbest thing I have ever seen.
I didn't even notice that, I will have to check that out. With the USB imput on the radio, I don't plan on using the radio at all anyways so maybe I can come up with a way to delete the antenna if it is so goofy
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 08:05 AM
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Gotta give credit where credit is due. GM did the new Cobalt SS right. Good engine/tranny, good suspension, good braking. Its inexpensive fun. I like them.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by E. Haskell
With aftermarket options, all bets are off. Hell, put the $10k difference in price into the SS and you'll likely blow the doors off an X.
E.Haskell is completely correct. The only way to fairly compare two cars is stock-for-stock. One you start modding, the only limit is money.

$10k into the SS and it'll EASILY beat the X in everything except 60' time.

In case you guys don't remember, GM Performance built the old Cobalt SS that was supercharged for that TV show on Speed. Then, at one of the first Time Attacks here in the US, it beat EVERYTHING. Including Skyline GTRs, and whatever else showed up that day.

I don't get why some of you are so stuck on the Evo being a 'superior' car. Yes, it's a very good car, but the track numbers have shown that stock for stock, the SS is just as fast. If you want to talk about modding, then I think using the price difference between the two cars is a fair amount to allow for modding the SS, at which point it will destroy the Evo.

So you want to put $5k into the Evo? Put another $5k into the SS and I bet it'll still be faster. You're not going to reach the point of the Evo eclipsing the SS in performance, dollar for dollar, probably until you get around $50k-$60k, or more.
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