this is a dumb challenge...it'd be nice if you could modify so the car could be an actual contender, no more hp than what the stock cts-v has or make it so one can spend as much money as the msrp of a new cts-v to modify their car (including the cost of the car new)...then i think it would be a great challenge

 

You'd also have to spend the money to ensure the car is just as safe as it was, stock. Which would include extensive safety testing.

Right?

 

Does the car have to be US-spec? Would an FQ-400 be considered to have no "aftermarket" modifications? Because it does indeed have modifications from HKS, but since they're installed as OEM, sooooo.... hmm.

Even so, I think the CTS-V would still give an FQ-400 a serious challange.

I honestly can't think off the top of my head any "sport sedan" that could challange a CTS-V. I'm not sure if this is still true, but I remember reading that the CTS-V is the fastest (stock) sports sedan ever to go around the Nurburgring @ 7:59. A stock Evo IX went 8:13, so around a much shorter track, it's possible. Too many variables to account for.

 

This challenge is not so much for the evo / Sti as it is for M5 and other high price sport sedans. I like the CTS-V , plus its American made. Maybe my next Car. Also with a intake and tune they are at 600hp

 

I forgot ALL about the M5. OR even an E90 M3 sedan

 

didn't an fq400 beat a gallardo on that famous episode of topgear?? i mean is the cts-v that much better than a gallardo?????

 

cts-v is a monster, i actually saw one today.. what is it like 560hp?

 

The M3 Sedan will take it, C63 AMG (But that might be considered modded). I'd consider the FQ400 to be a modded car.

 

I'm with you 100% on this one.

 

They already ran it against an M5 and beat it. Barely. The respective factories supplied professional drivers: John Heinricy and Bill Auberlen.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=6963

 

it was actually a murcielago but yes an fq400 did. does it have to be US-spec? cause then lets ship a fq over here and test it. i think that a new evo might be able to beat it on the track if if was mostly sharp turns and not alot of straightaways.

 

The C63 AMG is not considered modded. It comes like that out of the box and it compites directly on price with the M-3, lexus ISF and Cadillac CTS-V.

Carlos

 

Cadillac made a great product, I almost purchased a new 2009-10' CTS-V with recaro seats and auto transmission 6 weeks ago(by the way, the auto is quicker than the manual). Without going into details on why I didn't get the Cadillac CTS-V all I can tell you is this:

Grab the Nov 08' Car and Driver magazine. There is a megatest of all the cars that you get wet about(GTR, Z06, Viper ACR,Cadillac CTS-V, Mercedes C63 AMG, BMW M-3,Lexus IS-F,Evo X MR, STI,Ferrari 430 ScuderiaLotus Elise SC) the list goes on and on with about another 8 phenomenal cars.

Anyways, because of the price and the category the Cadillac compites directly with BMW, Lexus and Merecedes and these were the times on VIR(Virginia International Raceway)

Cadillac CTS-V 3min 04 sec.00
BMW M-3 3Min 05sec 86
Mercedes Benz C63 AMG 3min 06 sec .5
Evo X MR 3 min 13 sec .3
Lexus IS-F 3 min 14 sec .0

I can post the hold list but no need to. My take is that Cadillac marginally beats the competitors. Particularily on the C63 AMG case, it is a defeat by marketing, the C63 suppose to have 507hp but because of the damn marketing mercedes Benz detuned the C63 to 451hp. The motors C63/E63 are 10000000000000000000000000000000% identicals with just the variation of ECU programing, output on one is 507 and 451hp on the other.

Carlos

 

The standard Murcielago was always faster than the FQ-400 around the Top Gear track. That episode of Topgear was designed to give viewers an idea of how bad@ss the Evo was.

And as far as the CTS-v challenge goes, some chaps over at Jalopnik are using a Jag to run against the V and many people on different forums believe Jalopnik may beat GM.

 

The FQ-400 never "beat" the Murcielago. All it did was hang with it, and that alone was the point... to hang with it. The Murcielago runs a second (give or take a few tenths) faster than the FQ-400. Though the FQ-400 was faster than a Gallardo by a second. Those are standard modles, not the fancey Superleggera or LP560/640 versions.

Proof, pause at 7:45

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S6iE5bweAk