Focus RS
Sep 7, 2016, 08:47 PM
#4697
also, if anybody takes this thread seriously anymore, I question their sanity...
This literally is the biggest pile of crap (fun crap!) thread I've ever seen on Evom since I joined thirteen years ago.
omg, thirteen years....
This literally is the biggest pile of crap (fun crap!) thread I've ever seen on Evom since I joined thirteen years ago.
omg, thirteen years....
Last edited by razorlab; Sep 7, 2016 at 08:56 PM.
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Sep 8, 2016, 12:34 AM
#4700
Rob, that turn was awesome...
I've practiced in FWD cars hand brake turns, but never got Evo to react much with OEM setup..
Impressive near stock Evo x with open front diff is so competitive and on mostly gravel.
You know Boris Djordjevic? (Evo x rally racer also here in US)
Focus RS:back to topic.
I don't see it pulling anywhere near the shenanigans Evo 5-9 & X do, and reliably, even on road let alone abused near stock rally cars.
RazorLab & mine local shop FFTec has proven stock Ford 2.3 Ecoboost is plenty capable motor, I think can be pushed at least to 500whp on DJ. Maybe even more.
So similar to 4G63 stoutness.
The rest is great on B-Road/Backroad, but not track worthy nor race worthy without serious hardware upgrade. I am not sure you can say swap turbo to EFR7163 or efr7670 and beat it on backroad at 8/10ths?
Great option as delivered off showroom floor, maybe with mild Cobb tune and exhaust modified.
Keep it on sticky tires, and enjoy as is.
Razorlab:
you see in the future a solution to managing rear drive - even if newly upgraded differential is installed?
The OEM powertrain management algorithms seem hard for OEM to program to suit as its very complex, let alone aftermarket to crack and then develop into seamless optimized solution.
I've practiced in FWD cars hand brake turns, but never got Evo to react much with OEM setup..
Impressive near stock Evo x with open front diff is so competitive and on mostly gravel.
You know Boris Djordjevic? (Evo x rally racer also here in US)
Focus RS:back to topic.
I don't see it pulling anywhere near the shenanigans Evo 5-9 & X do, and reliably, even on road let alone abused near stock rally cars.
RazorLab & mine local shop FFTec has proven stock Ford 2.3 Ecoboost is plenty capable motor, I think can be pushed at least to 500whp on DJ. Maybe even more.
So similar to 4G63 stoutness.
The rest is great on B-Road/Backroad, but not track worthy nor race worthy without serious hardware upgrade. I am not sure you can say swap turbo to EFR7163 or efr7670 and beat it on backroad at 8/10ths?
Great option as delivered off showroom floor, maybe with mild Cobb tune and exhaust modified.
Keep it on sticky tires, and enjoy as is.
Razorlab:
you see in the future a solution to managing rear drive - even if newly upgraded differential is installed?
The OEM powertrain management algorithms seem hard for OEM to program to suit as its very complex, let alone aftermarket to crack and then develop into seamless optimized solution.
Sep 8, 2016, 04:20 AM
#4702
Rob, that turn was awesome...
I've practiced in FWD cars hand brake turns, but never got Evo to react much with OEM setup..
Impressive near stock Evo x with open front diff is so competitive and on mostly gravel.
You know Boris Djordjevic? (Evo x rally racer also here in US)
Focus RS:back to topic.
I don't see it pulling anywhere near the shenanigans Evo 5-9 & X do, and reliably, even on road let alone abused near stock rally cars.
RazorLab & mine local shop FFTec has proven stock Ford 2.3 Ecoboost is plenty capable motor, I think can be pushed at least to 500whp on DJ. Maybe even more.
So similar to 4G63 stoutness.
The rest is great on B-Road/Backroad, but not track worthy nor race worthy without serious hardware upgrade. I am not sure you can say swap turbo to EFR7163 or efr7670 and beat it on backroad at 8/10ths?
Great option as delivered off showroom floor, maybe with mild Cobb tune and exhaust modified.
Keep it on sticky tires, and enjoy as is.
Razorlab:
you see in the future a solution to managing rear drive - even if newly upgraded differential is installed?
The OEM powertrain management algorithms seem hard for OEM to program to suit as its very complex, let alone aftermarket to crack and then develop into seamless optimized solution.
I've practiced in FWD cars hand brake turns, but never got Evo to react much with OEM setup..
Impressive near stock Evo x with open front diff is so competitive and on mostly gravel.
You know Boris Djordjevic? (Evo x rally racer also here in US)
Focus RS:back to topic.
I don't see it pulling anywhere near the shenanigans Evo 5-9 & X do, and reliably, even on road let alone abused near stock rally cars.
RazorLab & mine local shop FFTec has proven stock Ford 2.3 Ecoboost is plenty capable motor, I think can be pushed at least to 500whp on DJ. Maybe even more.
So similar to 4G63 stoutness.
The rest is great on B-Road/Backroad, but not track worthy nor race worthy without serious hardware upgrade. I am not sure you can say swap turbo to EFR7163 or efr7670 and beat it on backroad at 8/10ths?
Great option as delivered off showroom floor, maybe with mild Cobb tune and exhaust modified.
Keep it on sticky tires, and enjoy as is.
Razorlab:
you see in the future a solution to managing rear drive - even if newly upgraded differential is installed?
The OEM powertrain management algorithms seem hard for OEM to program to suit as its very complex, let alone aftermarket to crack and then develop into seamless optimized solution.
I dont personally know that guy, but i know his car the people very well who build and service it, also the tuner who tunes my car, also tunes his etc.
Last edited by Robevo RS; Sep 8, 2016 at 04:28 AM.
Sep 8, 2016, 06:04 PM
#4705
Maybe next year. I am driving for fun, and the car is FUN as it is
I actually waiting about 3 years now when the transfere case or the transmission will brake , then i will get a dogbox and the front lsd. Basically that is a reason, being lazy. lol
I heard nice things about him, but i am all over the world and he is in canada. I am hoping once we meet though.
Sep 8, 2016, 07:01 PM
#4706
C&D Lightning Lap 2016 results are out
2:44.2 2016 Dodge Viper ACR
2:45.1 2016 Ferrari 488GTB
2:47.0 2016 Porsche 911 GT3 RS
2:47.1 2017 Corvette Grand Sport
2:47.4 2016 McLaren 570S
2:50.2 2017 Acura NSX
2:51.8 2016 Mustang GT350R
2:52.9 2017 BMW //M4 GTS
2:54.0 2016 Porsche Cayman GT4
2:54.8 2017 Chevrolet Camaro V8 1LE
2:56.1 2017 Audi R8 V10 Plus
3:01.9 2016 BMW //M2
3:03.5 2016 Dodge Charger Hellcat
3:03.9 2016 Focus RS
3:04.0 2017 Chevrolet Camaro V6 1LE
3:05.9 2016 Lexus GS-F
3:07.7 2016 Audi TTS
FYI
2016 Focus RS 3:03.9
2012 Audi TT RS 3:04.8
2015 Subaru WRX STI 3:10.5
2010 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution SE 3:10.6
2015 Audi S3 3:11.2
2015 Volkswagen Golf R 3:12.3
2011 Subaru Impreza WRX STI sedan 3:13.8
I don't have a lot of faith in C&D lap times but impressive showing none the less.
It should, however, be noted that the Cup 2 tires on the RS are much better tires than the stock tires on the Evo, and also the fact that VIR was repaved and widened two years ago (some drivers claim the track is 2-3 seconds faster after the change).
2:44.2 2016 Dodge Viper ACR
2:45.1 2016 Ferrari 488GTB
2:47.0 2016 Porsche 911 GT3 RS
2:47.1 2017 Corvette Grand Sport
2:47.4 2016 McLaren 570S
2:50.2 2017 Acura NSX
2:51.8 2016 Mustang GT350R
2:52.9 2017 BMW //M4 GTS
2:54.0 2016 Porsche Cayman GT4
2:54.8 2017 Chevrolet Camaro V8 1LE
2:56.1 2017 Audi R8 V10 Plus
3:01.9 2016 BMW //M2
3:03.5 2016 Dodge Charger Hellcat
3:03.9 2016 Focus RS
3:04.0 2017 Chevrolet Camaro V6 1LE
3:05.9 2016 Lexus GS-F
3:07.7 2016 Audi TTS
FYI
2016 Focus RS 3:03.9
2012 Audi TT RS 3:04.8
2015 Subaru WRX STI 3:10.5
2010 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution SE 3:10.6
2015 Audi S3 3:11.2
2015 Volkswagen Golf R 3:12.3
2011 Subaru Impreza WRX STI sedan 3:13.8
I don't have a lot of faith in C&D lap times but impressive showing none the less.
It should, however, be noted that the Cup 2 tires on the RS are much better tires than the stock tires on the Evo, and also the fact that VIR was repaved and widened two years ago (some drivers claim the track is 2-3 seconds faster after the change).
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