kaj

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drat. i've been busted!

mrfred

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Thought you might be joking, so I did a Google sear. You're not joking!

kaj

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f that.

blooo

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I actually did the exact opposite. After 1 WRX and 2 STIs, I actually switched to a an EVO. The STIs have always had nicer interiors, but lets be honest, they are still econo-car interiors. If you really want luxury car quality you have to go with the Golf R. It's good to hear that they improved the handling. I had a 2013 STI and it definitely had pronounced understeer and definitely felt much looser than the Evo. In the end, I just couldn't really bring myself to buy a third STI that was mechanically basically the same as my 2004 STI. Did the 2015 solve the issue with the 2000rpm power dip? That was actually really annoying for daily driving. The one thing I do miss is the 6 speed transmission. In addition to the extra gear, it is a very enjoyable transmission where the GSR 5 speed is very notchy.

kaj

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i <3 my 6spd. i'm also not a fan of how the 5spd feels. maybe my imagination, i don't know.

ambystom01

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Why are you driving at 2000 rpm in a turbo 4 cylinder and expecting power?

blooo

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I didn't say I expected power at 2000rpm, I said there is a "power dip" issue (you might want to google "comprehensive reading"). This means that as you get going from a dead stop, at some point below 3000rpm the car feels as if you had just let go of the accelerator for a moment while you are just trying to come up to driving speed. It is very annoying for daily driving because you have to stop and go lots of times unlike in a R4CEC4R. I suppose you might be H4RDCOR3 and launch above 3000rpm at every stop light so this wouldn't affect you, but the average driver does not. This is a known issue with the GR STI, and I am curious if it is gone from the new model since it uses an all new direct injection system. If you have an actual question about the differences between the STI and the EVO from a person who has actually owned both cars I will be more than happy to answer them, otherwise I will just assume you are trolling.

SnailSpeed

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I'm an ex subaru owner. Worked on them plenty of times. The spark plug replacement on a wrx or sti is not at all difficult, the forester xt on the other hand is quite difficult. The forester xt literally has almost no room between the valve cover and the frame rail, now what makes replacing spark plugs difficult to replace is that the coil packs are really bulky and there is no wiggle room to get them out. That being said its not impossible but a lot worse than a wrx or sti.

GravityKnight

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I've owned many subaru's (10 sec wrx, fxt, turbo legacy's etc.) They are not that hard to work on, with the exception being cams. Cam swap requires pulling the motor, so the EVO owns it in that department. But otherwise, plugs aren't that bad, pulling the trans is 5x easier than it is on an evo. The turbo definitely takes longer than an evo.. But the timing belt/water/pump/intake manifold/alternator/ac etc. is a lot easier on a saboobaru

kaj

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we know. that's why we're poking fun the "dreaded spark plug" myth

ambystom01

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Thank you, I'm well aware what you wrote. What I was getting at is why you care about a power dip at 2000 rpm in a car that is designed to be driven above 3000 rpm. I have not experienced this power dip in my 2006 STI or my 2007 WRX.

Perhaps you need to exercise some comprehensive reading since you apparently missed the part where I said I owned a Subaru.

mrfred

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The quote in your signature immediately comes to mind.

Robevo RS

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You can be sure there will be always someone will say its not that hard . And that , that means very different for selected subaru / STI owners. I always wondered what is that , that means for them ... lol
They just denying ( the guys who argue against this fact) to see we actually compere to the spark plug change the STI vs the evo spark plug change, and it is harder and a lot more time consuming

But end of the day hard to argue with facts... specially when you even timing it. Let say at the service area( where you have 10 or 30 minutes) , or side of the road...
When you come in 3 cylinders and leave 3 cylinders with a Subaru and you leave with 4 running cylinders with an Evo

Amby is the best troller ever. I dont think he ever owned an Evo, but he def. has a strong opinion on it, which is at least weird from his side, because he is the one who fight the strongest against those opinions who doesnt have a Subaru and make comments on it. I never really got it why he is in the Evo forum though, specially when he has such a hard wired connection with Subaru in his heart and mind. ( which i however appreciated it ) Always makes me wonder; why would you torture your self on the "dark side "



Based on his comments he doesn't even know , if you actually do racing over period of time, that means and involves a lot more then just steering a car.

Which many of you actually already knows.

he is def. a quite of character .

kaj

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I thought he explained it pretty well…?

I hear ya. Depends on what someone’s level of “harder” is. In my opinion, It’s harder and more time consuming in the way that changing a 5-lug wheel is harder and more time consuming than a 4-lug.

Robevo RS

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yes pretty much.