Civic Type R
Apr 25, 2017, 11:27 AM
#106
I have little use for hero 'ring runs. Frankly, I don't trust the manufacturers not to cheat a little here and there for a gigantic payoff net time.
My belief level in the car will be solidified when it's full production version is in the hands of local journalists, and we can see same-day comparisons in something like Lightning Lap.
Even if this car is truly good, the hype train is moving substantially faster.
My belief level in the car will be solidified when it's full production version is in the hands of local journalists, and we can see same-day comparisons in something like Lightning Lap.
Even if this car is truly good, the hype train is moving substantially faster.
but another reason my manufacturers get better times is they have 1 driver (usually a race car driver) drive the car on the ring for months, so they're really dialed in to the car and the track. whereas the journalist usually isn't a race car driver and they only have the car for a few days. Although the ones that do 'ring laptimes know the track quite well...
Apr 25, 2017, 12:19 PM
#107
I agree to a degree... the biggest part I have trouble believing is brakes not fading
but another reason my manufacturers get better times is they have 1 driver (usually a race car driver) drive the car on the ring for months, so they're really dialed in to the car and the track. whereas the journalist usually isn't a race car driver and they only have the car for a few days. Although the ones that do 'ring laptimes know the track quite well...
but another reason my manufacturers get better times is they have 1 driver (usually a race car driver) drive the car on the ring for months, so they're really dialed in to the car and the track. whereas the journalist usually isn't a race car driver and they only have the car for a few days. Although the ones that do 'ring laptimes know the track quite well...
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also, journalists aren't going to have a cage of protection in the car when they do their runs, nor is there any incentive for them to set a blazing fast run, aside from what they normally try to test.
Last edited by kyoo; Apr 25, 2017 at 12:36 PM.
May 3, 2017, 03:05 PM
#113
I saw this at New York Auto Show. It just looks dated already and I agree with warmmilk physics says you will have issues with any system that does everything. I see brake fade an issue.
May 3, 2017, 03:25 PM
#116
my comment about brake fade was that I was surprised that stock brakes can handle it, not that they can't. assuming the pad they did the 'ring record lap with are the same pads that are in the car at the dealer... which I'm not entirely convinced of
May 3, 2017, 05:13 PM
#118
Evolved Member
The question for those interested in getting one is how much are they going to build. This car could, effectively, be as unattainable as the previous not sold in the US cars.
May 3, 2017, 07:22 PM
#120
I still find it hard to believe that you can have street brakes from factory not have fading issues doing what was accomplished, but maybe Honda has the magical formula. We shall see.
