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English Racing / World Cup Finals / Fastest 1/4 EvO on the Planet
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English Racing / World Cup Finals / Fastest 1/4 EvO on the Planet
Don't the extreme tuner guys run on unprepped surfaces only? Kind of a different game than the well prepped drag strips US based cars run on. Not hating on English in anyway, their track record speaks for itself. I just don't really get the extreme tuner hate
Don't the extreme tuner guys run on unprepped surfaces only? Kind of a different game than the well prepped drag strips US based cars run on. Not hating on English in anyway, their track record speaks for itself. I just don't really get the extreme tuner hate
The reason I don't care for them is because they're scam artists. I've seen lots of guys pull similar ****, wrongly advertising parts as something they're not, lying about shipping parts, ignoring customers after they've been paid, etc. It's atrocious business tactics and I hate seeing people like that get glorified because they did one thing special. It's no excuse to turn a blind eye to all the wrong they've done.
Everyone else hates on them because there's a large debate about them fudging numbers, speeding videos up and stuff like that.
The reason I don't care for them is because they're scam artists. I've seen lots of guys pull similar ****, wrongly advertising parts as something they're not, lying about shipping parts, ignoring customers after they've been paid, etc. It's atrocious business tactics and I hate seeing people like that get glorified because they did one thing special. It's no excuse to turn a blind eye to all the wrong they've done.
Everyone else hates on them because there's a large debate about them fudging numbers, speeding videos up and stuff like that.
oh I see, I didn't know all that. So basically the Greek / Evo Hennessey
Is it me or is the car in the vid almost all carbon fiber? It sure looks that way, I'm sure its not "all carbon fiber" but a lot of it is..
Hood, doors, roof, trunk, fenders, and "headlights". So just the replaceable body panels.
Originally Posted by warmmilk
Don't the extreme tuner guys run on unprepped surfaces only? Kind of a different game than the well prepped drag strips US based cars run on. Not hating on English in anyway, their track record speaks for itself. I just don't really get the extreme tuner hate
They run on allegedly "official" drag racing tracks in Greece. If the prep sucks, that's not our problem. They were offered by a US shop to be paid to ship the car here and see whats what. They didn't.
And they're scammers. They took a member here for a lot of money back in the day.
There are a few very important things that need to be said about Extreme Tuners and where they race and the records they claim. BEFORE THAT HOWEVER it needs to be very clear that no one has a problem with the Greek people as they often seem to presume and post online. I am glad that they are proud of their nation and what they can do, that is great, the issue is not with the Greek people nor what they have done. The issue is ONLY with the claims that Extreme Tuners makes currently and has made in the past.
We race on zero prep surfaces as well as very poorly prepped surfaces so we have TONS of data about what is possible and what isnt. Horsepower (even if it was real) doesnt help in low traction situations. The flat torque afforded by a 91mm turbo could make it a little easier but torque required for the power undoes that right away. No one is going to cut 1.25 60' unless they have the same prep at WCF in Maryland or TX2K because Jason Miller has done the prep there for that event. Literally NOT POSSIBLE IN THE SLIGHTEST. This isnt a case of they know something we dont, its physics based on tires and traction. I personally have a car that makes the same torque as our Drag 8 and is FWD, of all the data possible to collect I do it and have it in order to make my car the fastest it can be. I am not guessing based on some other motive, this is purely based on direct observation and experimentation.
Our car is light, it has 4 carbon doors, fenders, subframes are lightweight, and extensive cutting has been done to get weight out of the car. It is painted Java Black Pearl which blends nicely with the carbon so its not easy to see what is or isnt carbon sometimes in those pictures and videos. We have also done several modifications to the drivetrain and engine control that I am pretty sure no one has done other than us and that helped a significant amount.
Thank you guys very much for sharing this and the kind words, it is nice to know our hard work is appreciated
damn... this really turned into everything thats wrong with extreme tuners thread... I thought it was a look how awesome English is..?
Nah, we don't have to talk about extreme anymore...
English Racing really kicked *** in this run. Police sometimes complain about how someone nearly "blew my doors off!" Here, the car was going so fast that it blew its own doors off haha. 7 Seconds.....man that's insane. Most of us on here don't even know what a 9 second car feels like LOL.
Warmmilk - It happens. We have had a firestorm of ET stuff pop up all over social media and I basically have to throw this same comment in everywhere. I like your choice of wording but normally we look at it as "how well we did this one time" ... lol
Dec 5, 2018, 09:42 AM
(no chute deployment?)
