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moparfan Aug 14, 2016 01:45 PM

Mazda's G-vectoring
 
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...ctoring-works/

They seem to have been working on this a long time. So even though it is easy enough to explain, those pesky details must be the line between nuisance and improvement.

WarmMilk Aug 14, 2016 02:35 PM

Am I the only one that thinks the whole "throttle hinged on the floor" is a stupid fanboi gimmick? I've driven a few cars like that, my BMW has it... Makes absolutely no difference. It kinda guarantees that it'll be pretty good for heel n toe downshifts, but a nice wide too hung pedal is just as good.


And for the record, Infiniti also has some cars with bottom hinged pedals...

The g vectoring thing sounds pretty neat though... It also sounds like something that could be tuned in with a capable standalone ecu for other cars with some testing, maybe even some oem ecu's very developed software

nemsin Aug 14, 2016 03:35 PM

I lost interest at step 1: Reduce engine torque.

Might as well throw in some brake-based torque vectoring while you are at it. {thumbdwn}

Nsomniac Aug 15, 2016 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by warmmilk (Post 11652238)
Am I the only one that thinks the whole "throttle hinged on the floor" is a stupid fanboi gimmick? I've driven a few cars like that, my BMW has it... Makes absolutely no difference. It kinda guarantees that it'll be pretty good for heel n toe downshifts, but a nice wide too hung pedal is just as good.


And for the record, Infiniti also has some cars with bottom hinged pedals...

The g vectoring thing sounds pretty neat though... It also sounds like something that could be tuned in with a capable standalone ecu for other cars with some testing, maybe even some oem ecu's very developed software

I also had this on my E36 BMW. They use a little plastic tab on the bottom of the throttle pedal to connect it to the plastic insert under your carpet. Let me tell you about a time when that snapped off as I was entering the backstretch into a sweeper on an autocross course, throttle pinned in 2nd gear. The bottom of the pedal swiveled up and wedged in my carpet, making it impossible to release the throttle.

For this very reason, I will never own another car with a floor mounted throttle that does not have a metal connector.

LetsGetThisDone Aug 15, 2016 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by nemsin (Post 11652258)
I lost interest at step 1: Reduce engine torque.

Might as well throw in some brake-based torque vectoring while you are at it. {thumbdwn}

It sounds implementing a system for what most skilled drivers already do. The first thing you do if the car needs more front grip is back off of the throttle a bit.

moparfan Aug 17, 2016 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by warmmilk (Post 11652238)

The g vectoring thing sounds pretty neat though... It also sounds like something that could be tuned in with a capable standalone ecu for other cars with some testing, maybe even some oem ecu's very developed software

That was my first thought. If Mazda was dicking around for 8 years on this there must be a lot of devil in the details.


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