Originally Posted by junkboxEvo

thee only thing that really bothers me about this whole situation is that i feel Levar is trying to put this whole thing on me. if you guys read this whole post. what was the 1st thing i said to levar wen he told me we have a problem?? i said i will refund you your money! but then when i find out that he sold it to des (and NEVER told me he sold it) i then felt a little angry because right there & then its like Levar wanted to assume ZERO responsibility & put it all on me. thats just not right. to me thee only one who made the honest mistake was me! and thats basically taking the word of another person who sold ME the turbo telling me it was a 9. i have an 06 rs. i bent the turbine on that turbo and looked for another 9 turbo. thee only way i knew how to tell the diff was from the 10.5 stamp. so i bought it. you see how this can all be a chain? like i said before, am i supposed to now chase down the guy who i paid 500 bucks to for that turbo (with out the forge wg)?

another thing, levar claims he never even opened the package?? does anyone here really believe that? i mean Cmon man, u dont even know me, i could have sent you a box of bricks or sumthing. when he said that i just felt like he was trying to play the whole victim role. regardles if you didnt use it, you had to have opened it and checked it out. this is going on a month since thee original transaction. everything was peachy till a few days ago. im on this forum everyday. never had any type of problems.

like i said before i really do feel bad about this whole situation. i even gave levar & des my personal cell number so either can call or text me to resolve this and never recieved any contact from neither (ecept des through a pm) im not trying to hide anything. thee original person who got beat was basically me. and now im supposed to fully refund a seller to whom i sent all the pics and info that was given to me? who then turned around & sold it to somebody else 3 weeks later? just makes no sense to me. i offered des my original 9 turbo parts, wich are in good condition, minus the bent turbine ofcourse. and i obviously cant force him to take that. i see the 10.5 side selling for like 200 bucks alone. and i kno for a fact that the housing is mint.

at this point im sorry but i just cant see how i can take full responsibility for all this.

my last attempt to try and resolve this is to offer Levar $200 bucks back. basically splitting the $400 refund to des! i feel this is more than fair because this way, it'll be a lesson to both me & levar. again im not ducking anyone. im the only one who gave each person my personal cell number. des can ship the turbo back to levar and levar can post it up for wat we found out it really is (a 05 turbo) and as complete as that turbo is he can still get at least $300 bucks for it! thus breaking even & leaving only me with a $300 loss.

thats the best i can do to fix this situation, im not negotiating anymore. (des) i really am sorry bro, anyone who knows me can vouch im a stand up legit guy. but im not perfect & i'm entittled to make mistakes like anyone else. & if you still would like the 9 turbo parts i have i'll still ship em to you for free bro, you can send it out & have it rebuilt with your $400 refund. or u can do what ever you want with it. i do have a bunch of parts in my garage also, so if you need any little part let me kno & if i have it its yours free as well, just pm me with wat your loooking for.

the last thing i wanna do is make enemies in this forum. i mean cmon, the one thing we alllll have in common is that we all own & love evos. lets get this fixed so we can move foward.

Originally Posted by Levar

I have learned my lesson.

Originally Posted by Nsomniac

You are missing the point. You know how you feel you were misled by the original person who sold it to you? The part where you call it an honest mistake? In this situation, you play that same seller, and Levar is in the exact same position as you. Des should pursue refund through Levar. Levar should pursue refund through you. You should pursue refund through the original seller. It's that simple.

What is clear is that you are the root cause of this problem as it relates to the forum. It is 100% your responsibility to post accurate information in your original for sale thread, and if a buyer receives anything other than what you described, you owe them a refund in exchange for the product.

Levar, it is your responsibility to refund Des to get the turbo back, so you can seek a refund from junkboxevo. What junkbox did to you, you did to Des.

Since option #2 is off the table (which was more than fair if you ask me), I don't know how anyone can look at this situation without realizing that all money should be refunded and the turbo needs to go back to the original owner. Why would Levar want to split the cost if he should be made whole as a result of your listing error? I don't know who you have been consulting with about how to handle this, junkboxevo, but they are giving you bad advice. You entered a contract with someone and didn't provide the product as described.

Originally Posted by _des_

Junkboxevo does not lie. I just received the payment. I'll have the turbo shipped out to you Monday afternoon. Once again thank you for your understanding of the situation.

Originally Posted by junkboxEvo

Both parties have been refunded. Now I'm just waiting for my turbo back.