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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Boost_Inspired
did you not read the entire thread? There is a possibility that it is and that's all I will say until further proof if any shows up.
Originally Posted by jeremy52048
it seems funny how one of the mods says he isn't pro one side, yet their are new facts on here now and doesn't seem to care.. i haven't had an opinion on this but if its a completely wrong turbo then the sale should be refunded considering its not the item he bought.

im sure anarchy will comment on this shortly, to help clarify this.
Here's the problem, from my perspective:

Buyer buys turbo, installs 3-4 months later. Turbo fails on startup, is swapped in and out at least once, sent to PT for analysis. PT's analysis is that the turbo probably failed due to insufficient oil pressure, but can be fixed for relatively cheap. Turbo is measured while disassembled, appears to be different from what seller advertised...

There are issues of custody - where was the turbo sitting for 3-4 months, did the buyer's tuner put the wrong turbo on, was the turbo sent to PT the same turbo that the seller sent, etc. Given the amount of time the turbo was out of the seller's hands, it's going to be next to impossible to "prove" that the 6265 that PT tested is the same turbo Anarchy shipped out, since the buyer doesn't seem to have documented anything when he received it, only after it blew up. There are issues of the install, which based on information provided is questionable at best.

And then you have a seller with literally hundreds of positive transactions over 7+ years, and no clear incentive to lie or rip off any buyer.

We don't have a great deal of power other than to ban people. Given his track record, I would not do that to the seller in this case, based on what's been posted.

TL;DR: Too many question marks, not enough proof.

Originally Posted by thestig0711
I've been watching this thread since its birth and wow is all I can say. Probably never going to buy used parts from here again unless I can physically touch it. Even though its hard to prove some of the facts of who did wrongdoing at this late in the game I wish you the best of luck 4UcK my fellow european.
There are thousands of transactions on here every year; we (the staff) probably deal with 10-15, and most involve a fly-by-night (15 posts/30 day min, no prior sales, etc) clearly ripping people off. Following common sense (if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is...), buying from people with good track records, and realizing that any given transaction can go bad, it's really not all that bad. Would I buy a $2000 part from an untrusted seller? I might, but I would do a much better job of documenting the transaction than the OP did.
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 12:55 PM
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@westsidebilly i see where your coming from, especially bc the buyer took a long time to really look at the turbo.. if i spent that much money for anything i would inspect it the instant it arrived.. then again i do that even if the part is worth $1 or $3000.
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Drkramm
Can't call them facts... Facts have evidence ... I'm naturally a paranoid person both when selling and buying, and there's no proof that he was given the wrong turbo. Nothing is stopping him from sending a different turbo in to get work done, or that the info is 100% its very easy to fake papers. On the flip side it also doesn't look good for the seller either.
^This!

There's nothing saying that the buyer didn't trash the turbo in the 5 months that he had it and sent PTE his old 6262 from his ETS kit. There are way too many uncertainties that can play into this story, to form an opinion of who's right or wrong.

Sucks for the buyer, but he had 5 months to have the turbo checked out and didn't. Now way past the Paypal dispute time frame, there's not much you can do at this point.
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 10:42 PM
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there is no sense for me to lie here. I can prove that I have 6262 right now running on my car and 6265 I got form Anarchy99 at PT warehouse, once the repair is finished I will post the invoice here

here is what is the reason of the noice again



and it has nothing about oil priming as Anarchy99 stated here before, he just sold me bad and absolutely another turbo I paid for

and as I already told you after I found noise with the turbo I have sent it to PT for repair and it costs quite a lot to ship it AIR (the only way) from Ukarine to States, and my descision was to make 6766 from it the cost of upgrade is a bit more than shipping, so quite reasonable to do that but it appered that Anarchy99 cheated me and turbo appeared 6265. I was going for a big power and to swap 6265 for 6265 is BS as every normal person understands

that was a reason for me to purchase BNIB 6766 and here is the invoice



guys I beluieve that all facts I have I have shown you, and I am quit reasonable


2 WestSideBilly

as for 3-4 month evrth is also clear, I paid 12th of November the shipping was delayd for about 10-12 days it takes to ship it sea to Ukraine 6weeks as my engine was down at that moment there were no rush to send it air and pay about 200US for that.

as soon as the engine was built the turbo was installed you can see date and video date at 1st post - and we had an unpleasant surprise about this "6765" and the story begins....

what do you mean by "documenting the transaction" ?

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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 4ukc
there is no sense for me to lie here.
I am not saying that you are lying, but statements like the above do nothing except show that you are either illogical or seriously lacking in imagination. Both sides in a transaction gone bad have tons of reasons to lie and, in an increasingly Ayn Rand world, it makes complete sense for them to do so.

Now, before you reply, please go back and reread the first clause of my post.
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 06:29 AM
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Im wondering why he didnt check out that turbo when it arrived, Everything i buy no matter who or where i get it from gets a look thru, I just got a Built Tcase from a reputable seller, who said there is a quaife in it, You Know damn well sure i tore it down to see if it had that quaife in it and it sure did lol.
Im not taking anyones side on this, im just saying you should have really checked it out when it arrived to prove it was what you wanted.
I see no reason why NOT to do this.

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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 4ukc
what do you mean by "documenting the transaction" ?
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Originally Posted by blowngasket
Im wondering why he didnt check out that turbo when it arrived
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When you got the turbo, since you didn't need it immediately, why didn't you or your tuner inspect it? With photographs, etc.




Based on the emails you posted, it sounds like you can repair the 6265 and resell it and recoup some of your cost.
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by WestSideBilly
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Based on the emails you posted, it sounds like you can repair the 6265 and resell it
and recoup some of your cost.
I didnt even had an idea to double check the turbo from a person who has 150+ ratings - my bad

this is the only way I have as you see Anarchy99 doesnt care about what is going on

the only way I don`t like about this situation that BAD sell gets out of jail free card, but its ok life goes one
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 4ukc
I didnt even had an idea to double check the turbo from a person who has 150+ ratings - my bad

this is the only way I have as you see Anarchy99 doesnt care about what is going on

the only way I don`t like about this situation that BAD sell gets out of jail free card, but its ok life goes one
I wouldn't care if I got the turbo from Jesus Christ himself...okay, maybe I would. You still should've checked it, regardless. This is why Paypal gives you 45 days from the time of payment to dispute the sale if anything is questionable (condition, correct item, etc).

Anarchy99 isn't getting a get out of jail free card. You just haven't posted enough evidence to back up that what he sold you is bad, or the wrong turbo in this case. Mods can't just go banning people all ***** nilly unless there is proof.
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Evo_AK
Anarchy99 isn't getting a get out of jail free card.
From the outside looking in, it sure does appear that way, though... (especially when you take the previously posted 'long block' dispute into account)
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 08:14 AM
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its is very easy to get 100+ reputaion selling junk like he does and in such cases as mine or with Slomo Corey about "spun bearing" he has reputation and everybody is on his side......
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 4ukc
its is very easy to get 100+ reputaion selling junk like he does......
It is equally easy to get people who are not quite sure who was in the wrong to suddenly feel little sympathy for one side.
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 09:52 AM
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I am not taking any sides here but I have dealt with 4ukc a couple of times. One was a higher dollar transaction and had no problems. I hope the situation gets solved. I personally think Anarchy99 should be active in this thread and not just ignoring it.
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 01:19 PM
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plz check what he wrote in my iTrader, I didn`t scam anyone and how he dares to state that mine 6262 was sent to PT......

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/it...93535&u=123816
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 01:50 PM
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