amir008

Hi guys

Well its about some time that i investigate the secret behind the SST Transmission fluid , since in USA and the OEM called Dia-queen SSTF-1
but , in some countries the same fluid called Castrol BOT 341 and Castrol Transmax Dual .

http://www.castrol.com/castrol/gener...tentId=7067529

My commonsense told me , that, No Way ! , that Castrol make a special
fluid only for mitsubishi transmission .

I found that the SST transmission / FORD DCT Power shift , developed by GETRAG company in Germany :

http://www.getrag.com/en/216

The lab that make this formula oil called British Petroleum (BP):

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_inte...dualclutch.pdf

The oil company that make this fluid to Castrol & several car manufacturer
Called RAVENOL from Germany :

http://www.ravenol.de/products?l=de&part=426

As you can all see the part number for the Dia-Queen SSTF-1
Is the same for FORD , VOLVO , VW , Chrysler , and the
official name of the fluid that supplied to all the manufacturer above
called RAVENOL - DCT/DSG :


http://www.ravenol-shop.de/epages/61...ucts/212106-5L

As you all can see in the link above , you could buy this fluid
as FORD Catalog Number : 1490761 or VOLVO Catalog Number : 1161838
and also at VW ece ....And its the identical to the Dia-Queen SSTF-1 and manufactured in the same factory to all manufactures

Today i went to VOLVO dealership to check it & compare with some Dia-Queen SSTF-1 that i have , and after talking with the head mechanic , he told me that i right in 100% and this fluid came in several names ......

So now you can buy this fluid from FORD or VOLVO by catalog number (supplied in the link above - down page ) and compare the price.

i did all this research , since the Dia-Queen cost in israel 110$ for 1 L ,
and the same fluid cost in VOLVO or FORD 28 $ for 1 L !

Amir

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NJ Drive

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Castrol BOT 341

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_inte...dualclutch.pdf

GFT is Getrag Ford Transmissions according to this article, precisely what Razorlab has posted elsewhere regarding our transmission...

jkennedy293

The part # for the Ford DCT fluid is XT-11-QDC. From what I can see, it costs about the same as SSTF-1

adog

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richardjh

Some old marketing blurb that references BOT 341, Getrag/Ford joint venture, etc. Looks like this was written back in the "development" phase.

Rich

RazorLab

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The pentosin FFL-2 is also equivalent (and approved VW factory fill) oil as well. Amber color as well.

$18 / litre

http://="http://pentosin.net/pressre...Pento_FFL2.pdf

There is also FFL-3 (made for Porsche PDK) and FFL-4 (made for BMW M series DCT) that would work well for heavy duty applications (track, etc)

NJ Drive

iTrader: (6)

I have read that the FFL-4 is also used for Nissan's DCT.

amir008

By the way , hear is picture of the Casrol BOT 341 that supplied from the dealership
in Israel.

ak47m203

this is good news, so we can just buy it thru Ford dealership for 28per liter. I;m gonna changes this every 3miles like my engine oil. I hope we can really do oil analysis to compare.

adog

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Who wants to be the Guinne pig? I really hope this works cuz I need an oil change bad

ak47m203

as long as the cross reference is right it will work out right. cause i dont think that the sst evo dsg is so special that it needs that to be expensive. if other dsg is using it i think that is way to go.

jackburton

I would.. but I'm at 25k. Plenty of time for someone else to test it on their car.

amir008

you are right my friend


to my opinion Castrol make games with several names on the same fluid .

You want another proof ? hear is official Castrol fluid recommendation
from russia ( page 47) :

http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/bp.../c/Catalog.pdf


its 14 mb pdf , but after you open this official Castrol document
you & all the members here will see in there own eyes ,
that the official fluid for Evo X MR is : Castrol Transmax Dual

i want to remain you & all members , that on the 4L Diaqueen SSTF-1 written in big letter: MADE FOR MITSUBISHI BY CASTROL GERMANY........

So , in USA , its called Diaqueen SSTF1 , in Europe shops is called TRANSMAX DUAL
or Castrol BOT 341 that sale only to Europe dealership !

in Germany , Ravenol fluid , model : DCT/DSG tell us that there fluid is Diaqueen SSTF-1 exactly !

Getrag gear company made dual clutch 6 speed transmission to Ford -Volvo-Mitsubishi , and for all this cars , the fluid is identical !

Do you think that the oil company Ravenol - Germany will declare without promotion/license
from mitsubishi that the DCT/DSG is the identical to Diaqueen SSTF-1 for nothing?

Amir

adog

iTrader: (7)

So how do I go about buying the cheaper oil, do I go to a ford dealer? I'll be the guinea pig btw