I am about to replace my scroth harness with another one (reached the limits of it's service life)

The scroth rally-4 harness has worked very well, in the past several cars that I have owned (DSM, WRX, STI, and now the EVO). The only problem with the rally-4 harness is the design of the recaro seats. The harness belt holes in the recaros prevent me from storing the harness under the seat when I am not using it, so the harness stays draped over the seat when not in use.

 

Ive used six point belts for years and they have worked fine. They actually did well when I went through a fence at 80mph and was stopped instantly. You dont need to be reclined at an extreme angle for them to work. Many rally drivers use the schroth 6 point belts in sedans, I guess were all idiots and dont know what we are doing.

 

I didn't think there is any risk in using 6 pt in a sedan either, except if you're not using a roll bar or or harness bar. But in that case, any 4-6 pt harness would be a risk.

To the person who ordered a Schroth, you will be very pleased if you are using it for street, autocross, or track days. It might not be allowed if you are doing mass start racing, though. I agree that is was a little annoying to have to drape it over the seat when not in use, but I got used to it.

 

Currently I only autocross. I may get in to time trails and hill climbs (if I can find some).

Thanks for the thumbs up on the schroth. Glad I made a good choice.

 

There are hills in Texas??? j/k have you checked for links on www.scca.org ?

 

use a small screwdriver to pop the clips on the inside shoulder, (right shouldler belt).

10 seconds, and the strap comes out, and you can work it back out through the seat.

You had to do it to install it, so i know you know how to do it... those big buckles won't fit through the seat back

 

^The back buckles (the parts that bolt into the rear seats) should have been smaller, if I recall correctly. He probably installed them by feeding those through the seat backwards. Popping the clips off is a bad idea imo.

 

I really like my setup in my STi - I only use it for autox event...

I have the gforce 5pt harness setup with a M1 harness bar and a custom 5th point mount made too (its awesome!) I would like to say that having that extra 5th point really completed my harness setup, when I would get everything super tight, my lap belts would rise some (yes they were tight... painfully tight) so getting the 5th point mounted helped a lot... the harness felt a lot better!

here are some pictures.







hope that helps... my buddy might consider making a custom 5th point mounting bar for evos...

 

i bought the schroth rally eye 4...and they fit perfect and are comfortable and dont require a harness bar...if ya have people in the back ya just unclip them and use the oem belt...harness bars are super dangerous if ya get into an accident with people in the back seat

cheers

 

thats the thing, they physically won't fit.



the stock style buckle, and the clip won't fit, you simply pop the clip and pull the strap outta the tightener, run it through, stick it back in. you're not damaging the clips, and even if you completely distroyed the piece that keeps the clip in, the force pulling on it, is a metal bar, pulling through. and to get it through, it has to slide out ( could never undo in an accident when there is tension on the belt in the first place)

 

Not having a harness bar is super dangerous for the driver because it can crush the spine in a frontal impact. Your call.

Warmpepsi, now I see what you are talking about. I was using Corbeau seats and didn't have to do that. But Schroth does make a version without the X part in back, unless they discontinued that model (that was my old belt, from about 5 years ago).

 

really???

that is what I have installed in my EVO... PIA to install, but you can get it to work.

you have to thread the left side of the harness through the seat back. When not in use, I just leave it drapped over the back of the seat.

 

Looks like I ordered the Rallye 3. The only difference appears to be tail. The instructions say to bolt it to where the top of the rear passenger belt bolts in. Should be a simple install. But it does look like you have to take things apart to get them through the eyelets on the seat.

 

I've run schroth, sabelt, and willians 3" in the rally car, and I've liked them all. Any of the 2" belts are crap, and complete waste of money.

 

You need to read more carefully. You are taking my quote totally out of context! Look at the whole post:


See? nothere was talking about the type of 6-point belts that wrap between your legs...NOT the ones that go through the seat-bottom! Obviously, 6-point belts that go through the seat-bottom are fine. But the wrap-around ones are designed to work when the driver is reclined at an extreme angle.


Sure, but you use the kind that go through the seat. That's totally different.


Only those of you who don't take the time to read carefully

Emre