Notices
Motor Sports If you like rallying, road racing, autoxing, or track events, then this is the spot for you.

Oil Pressure drop right hander question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 17, 2019, 11:26 AM
  #1  
Evolved Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
CaptainSquirts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Brandon, Florida
Posts: 773
Received 54 Likes on 51 Posts
Oil Pressure drop right hander question

So I know there are some topic out there about oil pressure drop on right handers. I noticed during autocross my pressure drops to around 40psi on right handers while using re-71's. So I guess my main question is, is this a problem/should I be concerned about it? 2nd, are there known things that can help with it that isn't a dry sump (like to baffled pans actually work/help and if so which one)?
Old Apr 17, 2019, 11:42 AM
  #2  
kaj
EvoM Community Team Leader
iTrader: (60)
 
kaj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 13,620
Received 812 Likes on 677 Posts
There are a ton of threads on this, it's been well researched. Out of curiosity, how long are these right handers?
Old Apr 17, 2019, 12:03 PM
  #3  
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (1)
 
LetsGetThisDone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 15,755
Received 1,543 Likes on 1,322 Posts
The baffled pans do help. They add about 1-1.5 seconds befor eyou see the pressure drop off. Racefab makes a pan, they're in New Zealand. and Chad McCurdy (find him on Facebook) makes a nice pan as well.
Old Apr 17, 2019, 12:06 PM
  #4  
Evolved Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
CaptainSquirts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Brandon, Florida
Posts: 773
Received 54 Likes on 51 Posts
Originally Posted by kaj
There are a ton of threads on this, it's been well researched. Out of curiosity, how long are these right handers?
Yea there are a bunch of threads but the information is not very concise.

Any who, the right handers are pretty short. At most it would be 2-3 seconds depending on the course. On a turn around, it can take about a good 4 seconds. Even on slaloms I see the pressure going from 90/100 (ball park guess) down to 40's just from the quick left and right slalom transitions.

In this video, look at the middle gauge and you can see the needle going up and down, especially on the slalom parts. 15 second mark on the right hand sweeper going across the runway also you can see it just drop and stay dropped for a good second before it picks back up.
Old Apr 17, 2019, 12:06 PM
  #5  
Evolved Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
CaptainSquirts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Brandon, Florida
Posts: 773
Received 54 Likes on 51 Posts
Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
The baffled pans do help. They add about 1-1.5 seconds befor eyou see the pressure drop off. Racefab makes a pan, they're in New Zealand. and Chad McCurdy (find him on Facebook) makes a nice pan as well.
Awesome, thanks for the info!
Old Apr 17, 2019, 12:11 PM
  #6  
kaj
EvoM Community Team Leader
iTrader: (60)
 
kaj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 13,620
Received 812 Likes on 677 Posts
It's been a while since I ran an unbaffled pan, but that seem kinda quick to have pressure drop that low. I could be wrong, since it's been a few years... but I'm not sure that's normal....? If it is, then no wonder people are killing motors. eek. That's kinda scary.

**edit: with the baffled pan I was able to sustain 0.8-1.1G for about 9 seconds with a drop to about 90psi. Not sure if that's helpful.

Last edited by kaj; Apr 17, 2019 at 12:18 PM.
Old Apr 17, 2019, 01:14 PM
  #7  
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (1)
 
LetsGetThisDone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 15,755
Received 1,543 Likes on 1,322 Posts
.8-1.1g is barely higher than stock.

We're talking in the 1.2+ range. This was a trace chad sent me. You can see it take longer to fall off, then it still has recovery spikes. Overall the engine spend A LOT less time at critically low pressures. White is his, yellow is stock pan.Attachment 322447
Old Apr 17, 2019, 01:15 PM
  #8  
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (1)
 
LetsGetThisDone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 15,755
Received 1,543 Likes on 1,322 Posts
Pic fail
Attached Thumbnails Oil Pressure drop right hander question-photo880.jpg  
Old Apr 17, 2019, 02:23 PM
  #9  
kaj
EvoM Community Team Leader
iTrader: (60)
 
kaj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 13,620
Received 812 Likes on 677 Posts
I guess it wasn't helpful, then. I didn't feel the Bstones would have allowed me to go any faster.

Last edited by kaj; Apr 17, 2019 at 02:39 PM.
Old Apr 17, 2019, 02:52 PM
  #10  
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (1)
 
LetsGetThisDone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 15,755
Received 1,543 Likes on 1,322 Posts
Originally Posted by kaj
I guess it wasn't helpful, then. I didn't feel the Bstones would have allowed me to go any faster.
A stock Evo does .92g on the skid pad.
Old Apr 17, 2019, 03:14 PM
  #11  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (8)
 
BigT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: NW NJ
Posts: 1,029
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
A stock Evo does .92g on the skid pad.
on a skid pad, yes. Real corners will make you generate more G’s.
Old Apr 17, 2019, 03:23 PM
  #12  
kaj
EvoM Community Team Leader
iTrader: (60)
 
kaj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 13,620
Received 812 Likes on 677 Posts
Originally Posted by BigT
on a skid pad, yes. Real corners will make you generate more G’s.
It would seem not in my case at least not enough to affect the oil.

Last edited by kaj; Apr 17, 2019 at 03:51 PM.
Old Apr 17, 2019, 05:31 PM
  #13  
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (1)
 
LetsGetThisDone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 15,755
Received 1,543 Likes on 1,322 Posts
Originally Posted by BigT
on a skid pad, yes. Real corners will make you generate more G’s.
It was just a point of reference.
Old Apr 17, 2019, 06:11 PM
  #14  
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (1)
 
Dallas J's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Portland, Or
Posts: 5,804
Received 724 Likes on 566 Posts
But how do I make 1.4-1.5g stay happy?!

I know TPA is hitting something over 2g at speed on the banked corner at GTAC last year. But pretty sure they solved that with a dry sump
Old Apr 18, 2019, 09:15 AM
  #15  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (41)
 
heel2toe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 4,690
Received 126 Likes on 121 Posts
^I thought they were still using a wet sump, no? That being said they have popped a few motors soooooo...



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:43 AM.