STU #86 - 2006 Evo IX SE
Dec 12, 2018, 09:26 AM
#259
without a diff (stx, sth, str, stu non awd cars have it) or open boost (ECU controlled boosted cars have it, STH has it), STU frankly sucks for anyone who enjoys their evo for other **** besides autox. been fed up with scca's solo pedantic bs lately. looking forward to flipping to track
Dec 12, 2018, 10:37 AM
#260
without a diff (stx, sth, str, stu non awd cars have it) or open boost (ECU controlled boosted cars have it, STH has it), STU frankly sucks for anyone who enjoys their evo for other **** besides autox. been fed up with scca's solo pedantic bs lately. looking forward to flipping to track
Dec 12, 2018, 11:30 AM
#261
Evolving Member
I saw your comment about going back to the RE71R and I'm in the same boat. I ran on the Nexen this past season and loved the tire but I have finished them off. I had a hook up on the Nexen and now he is saying he can't get the deal he offered in the past. With the 2018 season over, I need tires if I keep going with the Evo. In our local ASP group where I've competed, we've lost all of the top drivers over the past year. It has come down to our top driver and me. He is undecided on his plans for next season as well. I had plans to drop out of ASP and not compete with the Evo next year. Several friends are trying to get me to keep the Evo and move to STU and compete. I need to remove a couple minor mods and then I can compete in STU. If I go that route, I would sell the car I picked up for next season and stick with the Evo. Our local STU class doesn't offer much competition and this doesn't excite me. I would love to run with you in an event as I've seen your progress since joining autox over the past few years.
Dec 12, 2018, 08:46 PM
#264
It turns pretty well the way it is right now, have some things to try for next year that should make it even more willing to rotate (then tweak from there 
).
So what's stopping you?
For me, STU is the sweet spot of cost and reliability, mixed in with the ability to be competitive at/near the top of the class. Everyone's situations are different, but I feel STU checks all of the important boxes for me
Fortunately for me, track/HPDE is not one of the important boxes
I see you're from LVR, I'm assuming you know Marlon and TJ? They mentioned something about trying to get some of their local ASP Evo drivers to de-mod for STU, back at an El Toro event in August. As for the choice between STU and a different car + class, I guess it depends on what you're plans are for next year - if your priority is to run local/regional events and to be in a regionally competitive class, then maybe STU isn't a great choice if it's not all that strong. Nationally, STU should be very strong on the West Coast this year (Jeff S./Mark D. in their 370z, Matt A. in his E46 M3, Doug and Tasha in their Evo 9, possibly Mack and Justin Tsang in a 370z, and Bryan H's previous 350z in Ahren and Steve's hands (from Reno) should be interesting, plus I'm sure I've left out a few others as well), so if that interests you, join STU
As for making an event, come out to Crows Landing sometime, it's worth your while. Sometimes I go to Fontana and El Toro as well, might be at the January event in Fontana if my car is ready in time
).So what's stopping you?
Don't disagree with that. I am just looking at it from a cost and reliability perspective to be honest. STU also has quite a sizable class on the National level, so that part of it is enticing too. I think a good STU car can still be very fun for the track without all the reliability issues, but it really depends on which level you want to play in.
Fortunately for me, track/HPDE is not one of the important boxes
I saw your comment about going back to the RE71R and I'm in the same boat. I ran on the Nexen this past season and loved the tire but I have finished them off. I had a hook up on the Nexen and now he is saying he can't get the deal he offered in the past. With the 2018 season over, I need tires if I keep going with the Evo. In our local ASP group where I've competed, we've lost all of the top drivers over the past year. It has come down to our top driver and me. He is undecided on his plans for next season as well. I had plans to drop out of ASP and not compete with the Evo next year. Several friends are trying to get me to keep the Evo and move to STU and compete. I need to remove a couple minor mods and then I can compete in STU. If I go that route, I would sell the car I picked up for next season and stick with the Evo. Our local STU class doesn't offer much competition and this doesn't excite me. I would love to run with you in an event as I've seen your progress since joining autox over the past few years.
As for making an event, come out to Crows Landing sometime, it's worth your while. Sometimes I go to Fontana and El Toro as well, might be at the January event in Fontana if my car is ready in time
Dec 13, 2018, 10:35 AM
#266
Dec 13, 2018, 10:52 AM
#267
On the other hand, my setup is probably a bit of a compromise between all-out STU build (Jim's) and a road course build (10K/12K?) so maybe I'm missing out. Either way, it's a lot of fun to drive. 12K/15K on Ohlins is about the upper limit of what I could tolerate on the street, though.
Dec 13, 2018, 01:37 PM
#268
My car is setup for a road course and I can DEFINITELY see the difference in how it performs vs Jimmy's car. His is super responsive and stays flat as a pan cake around turns. He is 10x faster through slaloms. I assume I'd have certain advantages on a road course, though. Especially at the limit.
FWIW: my car is sprung relatively soft @ either 8/10 or 9/11.
Dec 13, 2018, 02:53 PM
#269
Evolving Member
It turns pretty well the way it is right now, have some things to try for next year that should make it even more willing to rotate (then tweak from there ).
So what's stopping you?
For me, STU is the sweet spot of cost and reliability, mixed in with the ability to be competitive at/near the top of the class. Everyone's situations are different, but I feel STU checks all of the important boxes for me
Fortunately for me, track/HPDE is not one of the important boxes
I see you're from LVR, I'm assuming you know Marlon and TJ? They mentioned something about trying to get some of their local ASP Evo drivers to de-mod for STU, back at an El Toro event in August. As for the choice between STU and a different car + class, I guess it depends on what you're plans are for next year - if your priority is to run local/regional events and to be in a regionally competitive class, then maybe STU isn't a great choice if it's not all that strong. Nationally, STU should be very strong on the West Coast this year (Jeff S./Mark D. in their 370z, Matt A. in his E46 M3, Doug and Tasha in their Evo 9, possibly Mack and Justin Tsang in a 370z, and Bryan H's previous 350z in Ahren and Steve's hands (from Reno) should be interesting, plus I'm sure I've left out a few others as well), so if that interests you, join STU
As for making an event, come out to Crows Landing sometime, it's worth your while. Sometimes I go to Fontana and El Toro as well, might be at the January event in Fontana if my car is ready in time
).So what's stopping you?
For me, STU is the sweet spot of cost and reliability, mixed in with the ability to be competitive at/near the top of the class. Everyone's situations are different, but I feel STU checks all of the important boxes for me
Fortunately for me, track/HPDE is not one of the important boxes
I see you're from LVR, I'm assuming you know Marlon and TJ? They mentioned something about trying to get some of their local ASP Evo drivers to de-mod for STU, back at an El Toro event in August. As for the choice between STU and a different car + class, I guess it depends on what you're plans are for next year - if your priority is to run local/regional events and to be in a regionally competitive class, then maybe STU isn't a great choice if it's not all that strong. Nationally, STU should be very strong on the West Coast this year (Jeff S./Mark D. in their 370z, Matt A. in his E46 M3, Doug and Tasha in their Evo 9, possibly Mack and Justin Tsang in a 370z, and Bryan H's previous 350z in Ahren and Steve's hands (from Reno) should be interesting, plus I'm sure I've left out a few others as well), so if that interests you, join STU
As for making an event, come out to Crows Landing sometime, it's worth your while. Sometimes I go to Fontana and El Toro as well, might be at the January event in Fontana if my car is ready in time