STU #86 - 2006 Evo IX SE
#271
My Evo is built very similar to Jim's list in the opening post. I'm on 12K/15K springs with slightly softer bars. I wouldn't say it's too twitchy on a road course, but I don't have enough experience to really know if I'm missing out over a softer setup. I drop my Tanabe RSB from the stiffest setting to the low setting for track days, which makes plenty of difference for me.
On the other hand, my setup is probably a bit of a compromise between all-out STU build (Jim's) and a road course build (10K/12K?) so maybe I'm missing out. Either way, it's a lot of fun to drive. 12K/15K on Ohlins is about the upper limit of what I could tolerate on the street, though.
On the other hand, my setup is probably a bit of a compromise between all-out STU build (Jim's) and a road course build (10K/12K?) so maybe I'm missing out. Either way, it's a lot of fun to drive. 12K/15K on Ohlins is about the upper limit of what I could tolerate on the street, though.
Yes I know Marlon and TJ well. We are always battling locally, not in the same class but we are regulars. I was up against Bryan H's 350Z this past Sunday. Those guys did well in that car. I'm shocked to see them running the wheels they have and would consider a RPF1. They and I were on the Nexen at this event and mine are toast as a local and fellow Evo M member dual drove my car at the event to finish off my tires. I hope to hear more about your schedule and if I can attend one I would enjoy it a lot.
In my experience, the SUR4G doesn't last as long as the RE-71R. I've had 5 sets of SUR4Gs and the most runs I've gotten out of a set was about 80 - the best I got out of a set of RE-71Rs was 130 runs. Just my experience, YMMV and all of that.
#272
Over the winter, I finally decided to address the lack of droop travel in the rear and get longer shock bodies:
I had around an inch of droop previously, these longer bodies should add about another inch. They also allow me to run a higher rear ride height without preloading the springs, ride comfort has gotten a lot better. Should be able to see how these affect the handling next weekend
I had around an inch of droop previously, these longer bodies should add about another inch. They also allow me to run a higher rear ride height without preloading the springs, ride comfort has gotten a lot better. Should be able to see how these affect the handling next weekend
#274
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Having droop travel definitely effects ride quality. I noticed that huge different going to a tender setup in the rear just to add room for the shock to sag. Its all in cutting out that shock of hitting full extension.
Also, now that you've got that extra inch, you should see if its worth flipping the arm or if what you have now is plenty.
Also, now that you've got that extra inch, you should see if its worth flipping the arm or if what you have now is plenty.
#276
Having droop travel definitely effects ride quality. I noticed that huge different going to a tender setup in the rear just to add room for the shock to sag. Its all in cutting out that shock of hitting full extension.
Also, now that you've got that extra inch, you should see if its worth flipping the arm or if what you have now is plenty.
Also, now that you've got that extra inch, you should see if its worth flipping the arm or if what you have now is plenty.
interesting. i've added a ton of preload to the rears of my ohlins, maybe i should take some out and add back height by extending the rears. problem is i don't exactly know how much extension they have/have many threads is safe to run
#277
First event with the longer rear shocks on the car, feels like I can get on the throttle sooner on exit and not have the inside wheel bounce/skip when it hits the ground. The surface was dry but had been rained on the previous few days (including that morning), will probably get a better idea of how the car feels once we have an event at Crows Landing (on 2/23-24).
Don't mind the driving, just shaking off my "winter" rust
Don't mind the driving, just shaking off my "winter" rust
#278
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Thanks Talha! So far, sticking with the same rates. I'll have a chance to try the car at a practice event in 2 weeks, hoping to see how it behaves at Crows Landing. I have an OEM FSB with the Cusco endlink brackets (set to full stiff) and a Whiteline 26mm RSB on full stiff.
Yeah, having droop travel and not preloading the rear springs definitely made a big impact in ride quality. I hope I have enough rear droop now, as I don't want to keep eating into the available compression travel I have left, but it's good to know that there's an extremely cheap solution to adding droop
Aren't you able to adjust the body length of the Ohlins without affecting spring preload?
Yeah, having droop travel and not preloading the rear springs definitely made a big impact in ride quality. I hope I have enough rear droop now, as I don't want to keep eating into the available compression travel I have left, but it's good to know that there's an extremely cheap solution to adding droop
Aren't you able to adjust the body length of the Ohlins without affecting spring preload?
my dude - put this ( ) on your gopro and thank me later.
#279
yes, but i don't know how much i can add while still having a safe amount of thread left. technically i could take it off and see, unless anyone has measurements of how long the body is. ie if i take off an inch of preload, idk that i have an inch to give in thread left.
my dude - put this (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017SG8PUU/) on your gopro and thank me later.
my dude - put this (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017SG8PUU/) on your gopro and thank me later.
As for the windscreen kit, I wasn't able to find one on Amazon that works with the Hero Session, but thanks for the idea! I'll keep looking
EDIT: Found some that work with the Session, these things are pretty cheap lol
#280
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Ahh, I see the issue you have. Have you thought about using shorter springs?
As for the windscreen kit, I wasn't able to find one on Amazon that works with the Hero Session, but thanks for the idea! I'll keep looking
EDIT: Found some that work with the Session, these things are pretty cheap lol
As for the windscreen kit, I wasn't able to find one on Amazon that works with the Hero Session, but thanks for the idea! I'll keep looking
EDIT: Found some that work with the Session, these things are pretty cheap lol
dude the windscreen is going to make things sound soooooo much better lol not to detract from your vid content but for real. it's amazing how well some of them work, it was night & day on my gpro between just hearing wind except for the occasional odd turn where the car blocked the wind. now you get pretty much the full exhaust, tire noise coming through. where is your camera mounted btw?
#282
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thanks - not to derail, but i talked to ohlins and they said there is a safety mark in the form of an unthreaded row among the bottom set of rows; should not undo the cup any lower than that, so I will adjust to that and reset the preload accordingly. hopefully i too will see improvements in ride quality & putting power down-ability!
#284
I haven't ran the car with the longer rear shocks at Crows yet, so it's hard to say if I'm completely happy with the rear; it was better on exit last weekend at Marina and rides a ton better over bumps. Hoping I can loosen the rear up a little more though.
#285
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I ran 700f/1000r from mid-2015 to late 2017, I was getting a lot of hopping in offsets and on corner exit so I decided to soften the car. Now that I'm not preloading the rear springs anymore, I can go back up in rate if I want/need to. I think the X has a higher motion ratio in the rear than the 8/9 does, right? Not sure how the motion ratios of the bars compare though.
I haven't ran the car with the longer rear shocks at Crows yet, so it's hard to say if I'm completely happy with the rear; it was better on exit last weekend at Marina and rides a ton better over bumps. Hoping I can loosen the rear up a little more though.
I haven't ran the car with the longer rear shocks at Crows yet, so it's hard to say if I'm completely happy with the rear; it was better on exit last weekend at Marina and rides a ton better over bumps. Hoping I can loosen the rear up a little more though.
Let us know how it works out for you. I'm not exactly sure which direction I want to go in, but I need to keep the inside front tire closer to the ground. More rear spring? More rear bar? Less front bar? Will have to do some more trial and error this year.
Last edited by BigT; Feb 19, 2019 at 08:51 AM.