Limit for reliable power on track?
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Limit for reliable power on track?
Just wondering about how much I need to need to reduce boost on my car to keep the engine in one piece for 25 minute track sessions. Due a restrictive O2 housing, my boost creeps to 24-25 psi up top no matter how low I set it in the tune. [UPDATE: I fixed this in October 2017] I'm just worried about reliability if I really stay in it for consecutive laps. EGTs are in the very low 900c range at 7500 rpm and generally my coolant temps stay at 210 or less under boost. My oil temps usually stay at 240-250 on track with 15w-50 Dominator. Forged pistons and rods, 2.0, BBK journal bearing turbo, big radiator and FMIC, stock oil cooler setup. Not sure what kind of HP its making, but I'm guessing around 400whp at 24psi. No dyno with this turbo and tune.
Am I in the danger zone assuming there's no knock in the logs (self tuned) and plugs look okay? I try to shift at 6500-7000 to take it easy on the engine. Maybe I'm worried over nothing, but it seems like the veterans on here sometimes eat their short blocks for lunch even with all the right precautions taken.
Thanks for any advice.
Am I in the danger zone assuming there's no knock in the logs (self tuned) and plugs look okay? I try to shift at 6500-7000 to take it easy on the engine. Maybe I'm worried over nothing, but it seems like the veterans on here sometimes eat their short blocks for lunch even with all the right precautions taken.
Thanks for any advice.
Last edited by EVO8LTW; Nov 18, 2017 at 04:34 AM.
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Doesn't sound like you'll grande it but you'll wear it down faster naturally. You didn't mention fuel but i'd run a mix just to keep things happy, or e85 if you're on that. Setup fans or a fan switch/timer to keep things running to cool in the pits. Also the gears will go before the engine in most cases. But hows the ol saying go:
There are 3 factors to every track toy - it can be Fast, Reliable, or Cheap - but you can only have 2 out of 3 of these at any given time.
It can be Fast and Cheap, but it'll blow up
It can be Reliable and Cheap, but it'll be slow
It can be Fast and Reliable, bu it ain't gon bee cheep.
There are 3 factors to every track toy - it can be Fast, Reliable, or Cheap - but you can only have 2 out of 3 of these at any given time.
It can be Fast and Cheap, but it'll blow up
It can be Reliable and Cheap, but it'll be slow
It can be Fast and Reliable, bu it ain't gon bee cheep.
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Laziness more than anything, especially since I think I would likely need to pull the whole turbo and radiator assembly out to do it. I'm pretty happy with the car as is and hate to mess with it after many parts swaps in the past. This was never an issue on the street or autocross course because it mostly kicks in above 100 mph in 4th gear, except when it's really cold out.
Last edited by EVO8LTW; Nov 18, 2017 at 04:33 AM.
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My car runs 24psi up top on the track tune, rev it to 8k. Bigger turbo though, and ball bearing, and running E85. The 1650F EGT you're seeing isn't terrible.
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Laziness more than anything, especially since I think I would likely need to pull the whole turbo and radiator assembly out to do it. I'm pretty happy with the car as is and hate to mess with it after many parts swaps in the past. This was never an issue on the street or autocross course because it mostly kicks in above 100 mph in 4th gear, except when it's really cold out.
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#8
93 octane. E85 isn't an option around here unless you tow (I don't). There is 100 unleaded and 110 leaded at the track, but the only benefit I could see to running that would be reducing EGTs a little with increased timing in the tune. Knock hasn't been an issue for me since getting a ported head and Buschur cams. E85 would be fantastic but just not practicable for me.