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Old Sep 30, 2018, 09:49 PM
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How are y'all monitoring EGTs pre turbo?
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I have a EGT probe in one of the runners..
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Are you still on a stock frame turbo?
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Originally Posted by ayoustin
Are you still on a stock frame turbo?
This was on a stock manifold.. I just drilled and tapped a hole, and installed a mount for the egt probe. The new setup will have a tubular manifold, with a welded on mount.
I know that people sometimes drill these with the manifold on the car, but I did take it of.. dont care much for metal shavings getting into the turbo
Old Oct 1, 2018, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by kikiturbo
I know that people sometimes drill these with the manifold on the car,
Who in hell would do something like that???
Old Oct 1, 2018, 10:32 AM
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Who in hell would do something like that???
I’ve done that at least a dozen times over the years...
Old Oct 1, 2018, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab


I’ve done that at least a dozen times over the years...
You have better luck than I. If I tried something like that, Metal would get into everything and all hell would break loose. No, thank you. At least our manifolds come off relatively quick and easy.
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The bigger question is whether EGT is a helpful tuning parameter on our cars. Tuning to lower EGTs, especially by running leaner and advancing timing, isn’t necessarily safer when you don’t know about the underlying increases in combustion chamber temp and/or cylinder pressure. I took my probe out because I was worried about it eventually falling off and going through the turbo.
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You have better luck than I. If I tried something like that, Metal would get into everything and all hell would break loose. No, thank you. At least our manifolds come off relatively quick and easy.
Do it while the car is running and use a lot of oil. Blows all the chunks out.
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Do it while the car is running and use a lot of oil. Blows all the chunks out.
Hehe.. you said "blows chunks".
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Do it while the car is running and use a lot of oil. Blows all the chunks out.
thats pretty clever.
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Originally Posted by EVO8LTW
The bigger question is whether EGT is a helpful tuning parameter on our cars. Tuning to lower EGTs, especially by running leaner and advancing timing, isn’t necessarily safer when you don’t know about the underlying increases in combustion chamber temp and/or cylinder pressure. I took my probe out because I was worried about it eventually falling off and going through the turbo.
actually, one thing you do see with EGT probe is the difference between the egt within one "pull", that you would normally use during tuning, and the temps you get to out on the track during a very long full throttle section.. so it is a usefull tool if you know how to use it
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With the EGT probe, you can see several 100 degF fluctuations in temperature within seconds depending on what the driver input is. On the stock turbo, I could hit 1800+ deg F by 6000rpm and 28 psi. If you leave it in gear and decel from the top of 4th, you can lower the temps to 500 deg F. It's actually pretty amusing. I don't run an EGT probe anymore. Just Boost, Oil pressure, and Wideband.

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I have my EGT post turbo because I find it more useful to be able to see how all cylinders are doing. One a stock frame setup you can only see the temp of two cylinders unless you run a second probe. I was asking those questions to see if anyone was running a two probe setup.

I don't use EGT for tuning, merely as a health check. If I see temps lower than normal I know I've lost a cylinder or something is potentially wrong.
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Originally Posted by ayoustin
I have my EGT post turbo because I find it more useful to be able to see how all cylinders are doing. One a stock frame setup you can only see the temp of two cylinders unless you run a second probe. I was asking those questions to see if anyone was running a two probe setup.

I don't use EGT for tuning, merely as a health check. If I see temps lower than normal I know I've lost a cylinder or something is potentially wrong.
Ideally you would have 4 of them, one in each runner... that way you can check your fuelling ballance. Post turbo EGT is pretty useless as the turbo will lower the temp a lot..



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