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EVOlutionary Mar 29, 2012 08:10 PM

EVOlutionary's DIY Lexan Window Kit
 
In my neverending quest to add lightness to my EVO I finally decided to tackle the doors and windows. Over the winter I gutted/chopped the rear doors and the front passenger side door. I'm leaving the driver side door stock until I have a full cage built next winter.

After chopping the doors there was no provision to hold the stock glass in place, so I set about making some polycarbonate (also called Lexan) windows that are quickly removeable. The rears will stay in most of the time, but the front I want to be able to remove quickly at the track, or put them in quickly if it starts to rain.


Tracing out the shape of the OEM glass onto the polycarbonate. The PC comes with a protective sheet on both sides to keep it from getting scratched up. . .
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Rear window and quarter glass traced out and ready to cut . . .
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Cutting done. I left extra material at the bottom. Will trim it after final test fit. I used a jigsaw with a fine-tooth HSS blade. . .
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Quarter-glass installed. . .
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Main windows installed. They slide in from the bottom. . .
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Film removed. . .
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Here are the brackets I fabbed that will hold the window up and in place. Two per side . . .
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...IMG_0023-2.jpg

The brackets slide down from the top and attach to the window at the bottom with a clevis pin (pins not shown) . . .
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Total cost for this was less than half of what some shops charge for ONE window. I'm sure my kit is not as nice as the higher end kits. We'll see how long it lasts before it gets scratched up too bad for my liking and I have to replace it. I have more polycarbonate sheet on the way so I can do the front windows. Later this season I think I will also do the rear window, then the front windshield next year after I have a cage installed.

EVOlutionary

DaFastOne Mar 29, 2012 08:27 PM

well done

jerdeitzel Mar 29, 2012 09:34 PM

I love the idea. How much lighter then stock?

EVOlutionary Mar 30, 2012 06:05 AM

Polycarbonate is about 1/2 the weight of glass. I'm going to pull a door this weekend to weigh the whole thing to see just how much I saved total over a stock door/crank/glass/trim combo. . .

Todd06MR Mar 30, 2012 06:25 AM

That looks really good. I'll be doing something similar to this next year. I've seen them attached to tabs with quarter-turns, but I like your bracket idea a lot.

EVOizmm Mar 30, 2012 06:37 AM


Originally Posted by jerdeitzel (Post 10067974)
I love the idea. How much lighter then stock?

I'd also like to know the difference in weight of just the glass. I currently have some cheap plexi-glass windows for my fronts which come out at the track. But I'm still running the stock rear glass. Wondering how much it will save me.

B.J.@ToxicFab Mar 30, 2012 06:41 AM

Nice man, looks good so far!! I am interested in seeing the total weight savings!

boomn29 Mar 30, 2012 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by EVOizmm (Post 10068437)
I'd also like to know the difference in weight of just the glass. I currently have some cheap plexi-glass windows for my fronts which come out at the track. But I'm still running the stock rear glass. Wondering how much it will save me.

Ditto. And a cost.

If it's worth it (and I'm sure it is) - I might commission you to do the same for me later this summer!

blackenedwings Mar 30, 2012 08:34 AM

Looks awesome, I love the changes current and upcoming for the car.

EVOlutionary Mar 30, 2012 09:32 AM

Next time I take the window out I'll weigh them. If someone wants a similar setup it would be pretty easy to make them bolt into the stock window crank mechanism so you can roll them up and down.

I would like to have them mount with Dzus fasteners or something similar . . . maybe if I do a V2.0 :)

DaveK Mar 30, 2012 09:49 AM

Can't remember where I pulled these numbers from, but it may have been from the weight reduction thread or off the AMS website:

Part---------------OEM----Lexan
Front Door-------10.4----6.0
Rear Door--------12.4----5.0
Rear Wnidow----13.2----6.0
Windshield-------24.6----14.0

Keep in mind also that the Evo uses thinner glass than most cars, so the weight reduction we see isn't as substantial as you might expect. Also pay particular attention to the groups you'll be racing with, as some specify the minimum thickness.

I've run lexan on rally cars in the past, and its cleaning the windows that seems to do the most damage to them. If you can, hit the windows with compressed air first to get most of the dust off, then use plenty of water to clean further.

I made my own windows last summer before Pikes Peak but never got around to installing them. I opted for tinted lexan so the windows will be pre-tinted. Was only 10% more expensive than the clear stuff and saves me $200 on another tint job that'd get ruined in short order.

One last note - lexan will grow and contract based on temperatures, so you may find when you leave it in the sun that it'll start to bow out in some places. Not much of a deal with the door windows, but keep that in mind when you're planning on how to attach the rear window.

Dave

JDavenport Mar 30, 2012 10:03 AM

Very nice setup!

Balrok Mar 30, 2012 11:32 AM

Cool, nice job {thumbup}. Most of the Porsche racers I know are actually going back to glass windshields becuase of the PITA lexan is to keep clean and unscratched, even the expensive "anti scratch" stuff. Something to keep in mind.

03whitegsr Mar 30, 2012 12:45 PM

Just an idea for the fronts, I think it was 1968 Hemi Dart Super Sport (or something like that) used this method for manual windows.

Leave the window tracks in and then use a piece of seat belt material, connecting from the outer skin/window rail, wrap under the window, then back up out of the interior window rail. Use two or three snaps on the belt and one on the interior door panel. This will allow the window to be fully up, fully down and some where in the middle if you like.

Light, simple, and still lets the windows go up and down.

EVOlutionary Apr 1, 2012 06:15 AM

Rear driver side door weighs in now at 30# exactly. I can still take a few pounds of metal off it, so maybe I can get it down to 25#.

I think next year I'm going to have solid carbon door skins made up for the rear doors (no glass) and mount them with Dzus fasteners. 5# sounds a lot better than 25# :)


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