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mouseIX Jan 12, 2015 01:15 PM

Lexan windows! Who's got em'? Thoughts?
 
Trying to do research on the subject specifically for road racing. My questions are...

Minimum thickness for legality? I have yet to find anything on this subject with NASA. I've read the SCCA requires 6mm (not sure if that is 100% correct). STM sells a full kit that is orientated towards their drag racing customers and is 1/8" thick which I have read will distort at speeds. Just trying to see some real world experiences. I will be installing supports for the windshield as well.

People who have Lexan, specifically windshields, who did you purchase yours from? My builder is recommended SHIELDS. http://www.racingshields.com/

Any general thoughts that can be added to the discussion would be awesome{thumbup}

Cheers:beer:

Craig

Balrok Jan 12, 2015 02:37 PM

Ya I can't seem to find the specs on the new CCR either....it USED to be there. I'll ask. It used to be 3/16 for windshield and 1/8 for sides with two straps for the rear and 1 for the front I think. As for the windshield I personally wouldn't for your purposes unless you really really like tearoff's, scratches, dents, etc. Glass is a million times easier, and stiffer. You've been around enough real race cars to know ;)

Balrok Jan 13, 2015 07:49 AM

Yep Nasa got rid of the reqs, so follow SCCA's. I think mine are 1/8 and don't deform at all, can't really tell they're lexan :D.

GTABurnout Jan 13, 2015 07:59 AM

I am intrested in this as well. I doubt I will convert to a lexan windscreen, but I do already have Lexan door windows, and I would like to convert the rear window to Lexan. I am mostly worried about the possible loss of strength since I assuem the glass adds some strength to the car. I guess with a full cage I should not be worried about it.

mouseIX Jan 13, 2015 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by Balrok (Post 11375147)
Yep Nasa got rid of the reqs, so follow SCCA's. I think mine are 1/8 and don't deform at all, can't really tell they're lexan :D.

I'd go 1/8 on the sides. But the windshield at an 1/8 thick deforms at speed, or so said the porsche guys I talked with. I'm going to have the bracing installed and probably install glass if I can get a good quote. That way I can always install lexan down the road with minimal fab work.

I'm surprised at the lack of responses to be honest. I assumed more evo dudes would have jumped to lexan.

Bnjmn Jan 13, 2015 08:40 AM

If you are not bound by a rule, 3/16" is good for the front, with a couple braces. There are various ways to brace it, but you want some slight tension on the windshield and then it will not deform (assuming the braces are well spaced). The braces essentially disappear from sight as you are looking well ahead.
As mentioned, put a shield on the lexan (like from racing optics).

Balrok Jan 13, 2015 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by mouseIX (Post 11375155)
I'd go 1/8 on the sides. But the windshield at an 1/8 thick deforms at speed, or so said the porsche guys I talked with. I'm going to have the bracing installed and probably install glass if I can get a good quote. That way I can always install lexan down the road with minimal fab work.

I'm surprised at the lack of responses to be honest. I assumed more evo dudes would have jumped to lexan.

Yep 3/16's on the front/rears at a min, but like you said not required now but easy to do later. To be honest you could likely cut your own lexan out of sheet without paying for precut plus shipping. Esp the 1/8 sides. If you wanna do like mine with the clips you can bring some cardboard and we can trace it out etc, or use your glass as templates. If it doesn't end up like you want we can always order it later.

I think the time attack rules said you had to keep glass so thats likely why not a lot have done it. That or everyone's spending all their time on front splitters ;)

mouseIX Jan 13, 2015 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by Balrok (Post 11375274)
Yep 3/16's on the front/rears at a min, but like you said not required now but easy to do later. To be honest you could likely cut your own lexan out of sheet without paying for precut plus shipping. Esp the 1/8 sides. If you wanna do like mine with the clips you can bring some cardboard and we can trace it out etc, or use your glass as templates. If it doesn't end up like you want we can always order it later.

I was planning on making the side windows. The only reason I was considering purchasing the windshield was the option for the coatings (anti fog/scratch). I should be up at the shop this weekend to gut the doors. Matt, I might need to swing by your place this week to check out your doors.

FilthyEvo Jan 18, 2015 07:12 AM

I'll be tackling this pretty soon. The plan was to use 3/16" for the front windshield, and rear. And 1/8" for the two front windows; the rear will be deleted as I'm making carbon doors for the rear which will delete the windows.

killerpenguin21 Jan 18, 2015 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by FilthyEvo (Post 11377863)
I'll be tackling this pretty soon. The plan was to use 3/16" for the front windshield, and rear. And 1/8" for the two front windows; the rear will be deleted as I'm making carbon doors for the rear which will delete the windows.

did you see the carbon doors for ale in the classifieds? price was a steal IMHO. if i can find it ill drop the link on your facebook.

FilthyEvo Jan 18, 2015 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by killerpenguin21 (Post 11377902)
did you see the carbon doors for ale in the classifieds? price was a steal IMHO. if i can find it ill drop the link on your facebook.

Got the link. Definitely a good price!

Robevo RS Jan 18, 2015 01:15 PM

i do think only the rear and front windows worth the price /weight reduction. the glass window alone are very light in the evo on the sides.
We decided doesnt worth the hassle and price after we weight them.(side windows)

mouseIX Jan 18, 2015 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Robevo RS (Post 11377994)
i do think only the rear and front windows worth the price vs weight reduction. the glass window alone are very light in the evo on the sides.
We decided doesnt the hassle and price after we weight them.

That's good to know.

mouseIX Jan 18, 2015 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by killerpenguin21 (Post 11377902)
did you see the carbon doors for ale in the classifieds? price was a steal IMHO. if i can find it ill drop the link on your facebook.

I saw the link on Joe's FB lol. Carbon rear doors would be badass!

killerpenguin21 Jan 18, 2015 03:19 PM

too bad they arent more common. those are like half the price of the seibon's and probably better quality.


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