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stuntman Sep 10, 2018 06:39 PM

STIFFNESS matters! -We back-to-back Carbon Revolution's CF wheels vs AL wheels
 
Hey guys,

Whether you own a GT350R, Ford GT, or Ferrari 488 Pista with Carbon Revolution's Carbon Fiber wheels or are just looking to buy new wheels for your car. Check out this article that explains the importance STIFFNESS plays in ALL wheels, the effects of reduced unsprung weight, rotational inertia, NVH, and strength (which is different from stiffness) has on ALL wheels.

You'll also learn that carbon fiber wheels are a game-changer, forged & cast wheels have the same stiffness, and lighter is not always better when choosing a set of wheels. Hopefully this article will provide you with more knowledge to make better wheel purchases in the future.

https://motoiq.com/tested-carbon-rev...-fiber-wheels/

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.evo...dc512c105c.jpg

Enjoy!

Dallas J Sep 10, 2018 07:40 PM

Lol, arent these like over 10k / set? I dont think the Evo is the right demographic for these.

stuntman Sep 10, 2018 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by Dallas J (Post 11838476)
Lol, arent these like over 10k / set? I dont think the Evo is the right demographic for these.

Try giving the article a read.

"You'll learn how important STIFFNESS plays in ALL wheels, and the effects of reduced unsprung weight, rotational inertia, NVH, strength (which is different from stiffness) has on ALL wheels. You'll also learn that carbon fiber wheels are a game-changer, forged & cast wheels have the same stiffness, and lighter is not always better when choosing a set of wheels."

MinusPrevious Sep 10, 2018 07:50 PM

The only EvO owner i can see attempting to run these would be Ken Thwaits (Optima Street Car Chall Winner)

Price example only

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.evo...6e617fa68f.jpg

LetsGetThisDone Sep 10, 2018 10:03 PM

Lol. I can't even bring myself to spend $2k on wheels.

kaj Sep 10, 2018 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone (Post 11838487)
Lol. I can't even bring myself to spend $2k on wheels.

Same. RPFs FTW.

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huzzle101 Sep 11, 2018 05:29 AM

Last time i went down to AG auto i believe there was a IX with carbon fiber wheels and brakes. So Evos are out there.

Balrok Sep 11, 2018 07:44 AM

Every second costs lol.

Construct Sep 11, 2018 01:30 PM

Wow, they're really going all-in on the advertising push for those. That MotoIQ article felt more like a cheesy infomercial.

Carbon Revolution makes it very difficult to find the actual weight of their wheels, which is strange when you're paying $3K per corner. Given how much they're pushing the stiffness angle on their website and in their advertisements disguised as technical articles, I'm going to assume the CF wheels aren't that much lighter than traditional race wheels. I suppose we could work backward from the wheel/tire combo they weighed in the article.

The claim that normal wheels can flex enough to lose 1 degree of camber with 1G of cornering force also seems suspect, though I don't have any real numbers to back that up.


In the mountain bike world, carbon fiber wheels definitely make a noticeable albeit small difference. But there we're talking about 29" diameter wheels and a couple hundred watts of human power.

stuntman Sep 11, 2018 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by Construct (Post 11838574)
Wow, they're really going all-in on the advertising push for those. That MotoIQ article felt more like a cheesy infomercial.

Carbon Revolution makes it very difficult to find the actual weight of their wheels, which is strange when you're paying $3K per corner. Given how much they're pushing the stiffness angle on their website and in their advertisements disguised as technical articles, I'm going to assume the CF wheels aren't that much lighter than traditional race wheels. I suppose we could work backward from the wheel/tire combo they weighed in the article.

The claim that normal wheels can flex enough to lose 1 degree of camber with 1G of cornering force also seems suspect, though I don't have any real numbers to back that up.

In the mountain bike world, carbon fiber wheels definitely make a noticeable albeit small difference. But there we're talking about 29" diameter wheels and a couple hundred watts of human power.

It's not a paid advertisement.

Fronts are 16.5lbs, rears are 19.5lbs.

I'm sorry you feel its an infomercial when the concepts of stiffness to weight can be applied for use when buying ANY wheel.

Dallas J Sep 11, 2018 02:07 PM

No ones disputing stiffness is great, its the laughable price to this market. Sure there might be some out there but this is a pretty price sensitive group.

LetsGetThisDone Sep 11, 2018 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by Dallas J
No ones disputing stiffness is great, its the laughable price to this market. Sure there might be some out there but this is a pretty price sensitive group.

I wouldn't say price sensitive. But there are several other things most of our cars could use that would provide a bigger Performance delta for less money then a $12k set of carbon wheel.

dave_evolvix Sep 11, 2018 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by stuntman (Post 11838577)
It's not a paid advertisement.

Fronts are 16.5lbs, rears are 19.5lbs.

I'm sorry you feel its an infomercial when the concepts of stiffness to weight can be applied for use when buying ANY wheel.

Whether or not it was paid, it seemed that all of the content was provided by the manufacturer. I wasn't left feeling confident that MotoIQ independently verified the information presented. A small disclosure about the data sources, what promotional value/incentives were or were not provided described early in the article would worked wonders. Let's be honest, but in today's world we are all very skeptical of the incentives behind all publications.

As for the wheels, I'd love to see what 18x9 and 18x10.5 sizes weigh.

Random question.. but the GT350R wheels, these are 5x114.3? 19x11?



Dallas J Sep 11, 2018 03:00 PM

Heh, I am in the market for some 18x12s, something tells me I'll be forced to stick with traditional wheels with my budget considering I need 2 sets.

LetsGetThisDone Sep 11, 2018 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by Dallas J
Heh, I am in the market for some 18x12s, something tells me I'll be forced to stick with traditional wheels with my budget considering I need 2 sets.

It's cool. Just spend what your cars worth on a few round things. ;)


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