Do I trade the Evo for an FRS?
the Evo is loud, rough, no power anything, expensive to maintain.
FRS is cheap, RWD and fun. Do I trade the EVO for an FRS? I know the FRS will be a lot slower, but more fun? or do I spend like $5k and get the Evo to be quiet, smoother, etc. (like add sound deadening, change bushings, clutch will need changed soon, etc.) probably a Turbo rebuild soon. 111,xxx miles on Evo. I really dont want to to get rid of the Evo....but a newer car....or maybe a used X MR. :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused::confused: What would you do? |
Originally Posted by Lancerguy'03
(Post 11060901)
the Evo is loud, rough, no power anything, expensive to maintain.
FRS is cheap, RWD and fun. Do I trade the EVO for an FRS? I know the FRS will be a lot slower, but more fun? or do I spend like $5k and get the Evo to be quiet, smoother, etc. (like add sound deadening, change bushings, clutch will need changed soon, etc.) probably a Turbo rebuild soon. 111,xxx miles on Evo. I really dont want to to get rid of the Evo....but a newer car....or maybe a used X MR. :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused::confused: What would you do? You mentioned a X... Why not go that route. GSR or MR? I have zero experience with the FRS, but you said you dont want to get rid of the Evo. So just get a new or newer one! |
i think a X would be a little more than I want to spend right now. plus I am looking at the Automatic FRS, something to be an easier DD but still be fun for spirited driving.
ive had my Evo for 7 years now. |
I've driven one BRZ/FRS and loved everything about it...except the engine. Great chassis, suspension, steering, handling, interior...but the engine was so boring I was tempted to start checking work emails during a WOT pull. If you get one, budget for a supercharger kit right away.
I actually have a buddy up in MN looking to sell his FRS A/T: http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/sho...2013+FRS+Scion |
Originally Posted by Kracka
(Post 11060962)
I've driven one BRZ/FRS and loved everything about it...except the engine. Great chassis, suspension, steering, handling, interior...but the engine was so boring I was tempted to start checking work emails during a WOT pull. If you get one, budget for a supercharger kit right away.
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If you were going to go that route, why not find a low mileage s2000, lol.
It is about as practical, the motor is much more fun, the gearbox is one of the best. Must I add if you wanted a car like that, wouldnt the genesis coupe be a great option as well? |
I'd do a pro's and con's list for each car. That always seems to help me. In addition, focus on what you dislike the most about the evo and see how much that one item would be to fix/change. It may just make you fall back in love with the car.
Speaking as someone who has sold three prior evo's to get more family friendly, luxury replacement vehicles- I've always regretted it. But like the others have said, I'd be weary on the power of he FRS without some form of forced induction. Good luck! Travis |
What I dont like about the Evo RS
no sound deadening, no power locks, no power windows, the stereo, and the loud exhaust, the rough ride. in addition to the paint being ****ty and no cruise control. Things I can change I guess. after thinking more about it...probably just dump more $$$ in the Evo and "fix it up". Get all new bushings, rebuild the suspension or get stock Bilsteins, get a quieter exhaust, upgrade the audio system and get some Dynomat installed in the doors and floor. or save all this money and get something newer. first world problems. |
I've had my IX RS for 5 years and also driven a good number of modded and stock S2000/FRS. I used to feel my Evo was a drag for daily too - loud interior, unforgiving clutch, harsh NVH, turbo lag, cheap interior etc.
my vote is to get a cheap daily and save the Evo for the weekends, that way you'll enjoy the power, handling and the rawness when it counts. having a dedicated DD also means you'll keep the Evo in better shape - lower mileage, less susceptible to damage etc. - the savings in gas and maintenance from not driving the Evo will pay for the DD in a few years. |
I would trade you my power everything for your non-power rs in a heartbeat! roll up windows would be annoying but everything else can go!
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well running some numbers and such...
I only drive 6 miles to work. so that will save me a lot from when I was going to college and driving a lot more. i need to get used to that. and now understanding Credit Cards and having an income to be able to pay CC debt, my Credit interest rate is 6.9% instead of an auto loan just spend some $$$ at EvoD. so maybe it makes more sense to invest a little into the Evo to get it more of what I want. like high mileage maintenance stuff, change out the suspension, all new bushings, motor mounts, new radio/sub, quiet exhaust, etc. |
Originally Posted by mitsubeastlee
(Post 11061382)
I would trade you my power everything for your non-power rs in a heartbeat! roll up windows would be annoying but everything else can go!
I wouldnt mind just having the front be powered. |
Originally Posted by turbotboz
(Post 11060991)
I'd do a pro's and con's list for each car. That always seems to help me. In addition, focus on what you dislike the most about the evo and see how much that one item would be to fix/change. It may just make you fall back in love with the car.
Speaking as someone who has sold three prior evo's to get more family friendly, luxury replacement vehicles- I've always regretted it. But like the others have said, I'd be weary on the power of he FRS without some form of forced induction. Good luck! Travis I wish you were in NTEC, which is my only additional advice- We need to see more of lancerguy03 ! I used to to know a guy w/an Evo8rs :) The club isn't the same as it was when you were around, but it can be what you make it; you can set up meets and make meets what you like them to be. It seems to me, you need to come out to play more often- you'll fall in love w/it all over again- i do! |
I've thought about trading in for an FR-S but just the lack of power is what stops me. And this last ice storm we had made me thankful for having awd.
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I considered and FRS when I wanted to trade in my truck, far too little power. I bought an infiniti G37S coupe 6MT and love it! It is as quick as an X, but much nicer inside. Very quiet, and a great audio system.
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Originally Posted by TxEvo8
(Post 11066755)
I considered and FRS when I wanted to trade in my truck, far too little power. I bought an infiniti G37S coupe 6MT and love it! It is as quick as an X, but much nicer inside. Very quiet, and a great audio system.
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Stock for stock there are a decent number of cars just as quick in a straight line as an Evo. Hell, my S2k was quicker on the highway than Evo VIII's. Once modded though, it's a whole new ballgame.
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Lancerguy03,
If you're really wanting to know if the FR-S is worth it, talk to Acree. He went from a fully built Evo IX to a BRZ (basically the same thing as the FR-S). He could really give you some insight. |
Only if you plan to turbo the frs.
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Get the front bumper repainted and call it good. :lol:
Stock KYB shocks are easy to come by and really cheap. You can get some dynomat for sound suppression. Then pick up a cheap head unit and some stock speakers. You can run all the wires while installing the dynomat. Putting power windows and locks to the car is no easy feat. Need the wiring harnesses, all the motors, and new door panels. Just live (suffer) with the manual stuff. |
As an alternative to Dynamat, check out GTMat, they're based down in Austin and their product works very well. I have 20 sq/ft of their 50mil mat in my car.
http://www.gtmat.com/ I believe they are also EvoM vendors and do give discounts. |
Here's my 2 cents. Park the Evo and don't change a thing. Go buy a new Mitsu Mirage for daily driving.
With low finance rates, it'll cost you about $225 a month. And because it gets 40 MPG your daily commute will only cost you about 95 cents a day. That's less than $20 a month in fuel costs. 100K mile warranty too. 4 doors with decent headroom. In summary - what you might spend in maintenance and fuel on the Evo each month can buy you another car. Double win - you get a quiet smooth ride and the you get to keep the evo raw which is what makes the RS what it is. Not only is it what I would do -- it's what I did do. we have 3 mitsus now. Evo, Endeavor, and Mirage. Great cars IMHO. |
I've been toying with the idea of a Mirage or iMiev as a commuter...
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Originally Posted by Kracka
(Post 11077524)
I've been toying with the idea of a Mirage or iMiev as a commuter...
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Originally Posted by Ralli04Art
(Post 11103408)
Isn't that what you bought the 9 MR for?
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I personally would not go the S2k route as some have mentioned for daily driving. I personally have one for tracking. The car is tiny and not really comfortable as a daily driver in my opinion. Also since owning the Evo 8 I just got having the turbo/torque available all all rpms is so much more enjoyable as a daily. Issue with S2k is you only get decent power at above 5.5k rpms.
I personally would trade in your Evo for a Evo X if you want a more comfortable daily. If you go the FRS route (bigger car than s2k so more comfortable) I would turbo it, the low power will piss you off especially if you are use to driving an Evo for 10 years. I know a friend personally who went from Evo 9 to turbo s2k and now hes going back to an Evo. |
keep the evo and get an frs as a daily. you will regret selling or trading in the ebo:/
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Originally Posted by Ralli04Art
(Post 11103408)
Isn't that what you bought the 9 MR for?
Originally Posted by Todd06MR
(Post 11103587)
Kracka, looks like it is time to change your avatar. Haha. More and more people are confusing you with Tom. I say bring back Bill Mays
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i built mine to be a more comfortable street car. No power mods. Just drivability stuff that takes the edge off for street driving. SS clutch line, MR bilstiens, rear sway, rear lsd upgrade, louder stereo. It's still like driving an overgrown gokart but it's liveable.
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You will regret selling the Evo. The FRS is fun, but you can do mods to make the car much easier to live with. Get an HFC, Greddy Evo2 exhaust and MR bilsteins for starters. Or buy my 2006 BMW M5, then you get Dr Jeckel and Mr Hyde-mobile.
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Originally Posted by Kracka
(Post 11104107)
You're thinking of Tom/Supraboy1.
:lol: No kidding! |
Originally Posted by Ralli04Art
(Post 11103408)
Isn't that what you bought the 9 MR for?
Originally Posted by Todd06MR
(Post 11103587)
Kracka, looks like it is time to change your avatar. Haha. More and more people are confusing you with Tom. I say bring back Bill Mays
Originally Posted by EvoG8r
(Post 11104121)
You will regret selling the Evo.
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Keep the RS. Spend 10k and get a nice used BMW as DD. Worked for me.
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now im trying to join the darkside and get an Evo X MR. probably what I should of looked at from the beginning.
Drives like an Evo/has the amenities. best of both worlds. |
I would not want an Evo with a SST trans in it. They are not known for holding much power and are very costly to upgrade them. Now if you are doing light mods, like a couple bolt ons, I say go for it.
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Yeah. I plan on a reflash and that's about it. I've done the loud 400hp thing. I just want a fun, reliable, awd, turbo, auto.
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Legacy GT? Would fit what you want. {thumbup}
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