ah there are so many things wrong with this statement.

the entire redistribution of wealth is a red herring. it's another statement where the context has been contorted to fit an untrue attack strategy. that simple.

that's the problem with modern neo-cons. they have no concern for actually basing any of their arguments in reality.

this is one election where the candidates both had their merits. if mccain had been his old self (circa 6 - 8 years ago), i would have had a very tough decision to make, but he made that choice for me by conforming to the "new" republican party lines. i was torn when he gave his concession speech because he seemed like he reverted back to the old john mccain. the one that i knew and liked before bush ruined him in the south carolina primaries 4 years ago. i still believe though that he is a good and decent man, and i hope he will continue to be a good and decent man in our senate. had he not turned into a partisan hatchetman and selected an outright moron for his running mate, i think he could have done alot better, but hindsight is always 20/20.

i look forward to the next 4 years with a cautious optimism, for the first time in a long time i have hope that this country can re-take control of it's own future from the hands of greedy corporations and selfish profiteers. only time will tell though.

so instead of repeating fictitious neo-con talking points i urge you to actually take some time, look at the facts and the issues, and make a real determination about the outcome of this election. don't listen to me, don't listen to the talking heads. for once take the time to research the truth and think for yourself.

the potential for a change of direction is now more tangible than ever, and before you write off the outcome of this election along partisan lines, it might behoove you to take a minute and let it all absorb. the United States has spoken quite loudly for the senator from Illinois, perhaps it's time to give him a chance.

 

Healthcare... I lived 20 minutes from canada for most of my life their healthcare system doesnt work. My uncle is also a doctor and when he was working in upstate ny said that a vast majority of their patients were canadians coming in and paying cash for surgeries because they were on like a 2 year wait for surgery. I have to leave to go to work I dont have time for this really. Obama is going to be my president im going to support him and respect him as my leader, no he really cant **** up anymore than bush so i guess we might be ok.

 

dude, i want some of what you're smoking. it's some gooooooood sheeeeit.

 

It is good and you should come get some. But we should agree to disagree we see things differently. I havent told any of you, you are idiots and go back and look at obama or mccains policies or anything like that. political arguments are stupid, this is like someone not liking someone because of the religion they follow.

 

BTW russia is ready to fly missiles at us so hopefully we have another JFK on our hands.

 

Speaking of heath care and good ****. I wonder if we'll get medical marijuana all over?

cough, cough. I feel a headache coming on.

 

lol if obama can change the marijuana laws then I will love the man.

 

Oh I have researched the issues Justin, don't be so quick to label me.

My main issues are:
-Less than one term of experience in congress.
-Questionable long time ties to public personalities that express racist sentiments.
-Is perceived as an extreme liberal who will do little to reach out to make the running of the country a joint effort between Repubs. & Dems.
-Pro choice while while supporting partial-birth aborotion
-already talk of increase prices for ammo (you like guys don't you?)

I mean no sence in *****ing, personally wasn't a huge fan of McCain either it was like voting between a big douche and a turd sandwhich. My beliefs however fall more with McCain. I just hope this doesn't turn into PriusT.net

 

Also Justin I kinda laugh when you say how people should do research and then form an opinion, cause when I asked a lot of people who were voting for obama why, 9 times out of 10 I heard, cause I want change! Change is envitable but not
always for the better!

I pray that I'm wrong though and it does get better!

 

i advocate everyone who is voting, no matter for whom, to take a close look at the issues and facts (and i am certainly not saying that i know it all or am 100% correct all the time, so if i say something that is incorrect please call me out on it).

the socialism thing just really gets my goat, because it's completely untrue.

i'm not trying to pigeon hole you, but calling social programs "socialism" is just blatantly false. there are esoteric socialist tendencies to any sort of social program it's true, but until the government starts seizing and redistributing farm land to the proletariat, the S word doesn't really apply, even in a verbose context.

 

Please articulate using a better sentence, I just dont understand what you are trying to say here.

That has been the case for ever, not just during the depression, to think that was what caused the depression is false. The tax loopholes that businesses use to avoid taxes are so big, its not even funny how low their income taxes are compared to an average worker (majority of population), such as myself. You may call it class warfare/socialism, I call it fairness to everyone. Shold I not be able to save enough to start my own business? The premise that only existing businesses should be relied upon to create more jobs is so lame. If your theory is correct, Bush's 2 terms in office should have worked out just fine for the businesses and individuals, but it did not (specially for individuals). I'm not saying this was the only cause, it was one of many. All Obama has promised to do in terms of tax policies is to re-instate tax policies of the Clinton era (a good time for most people) and stop the Bush tax cuts. To label it as "spread the wealth" was probably not the smartest act on his behalf, but the idea definitely has weight. Or else, the overwhelming majority of America would not have voted for him.

Just so you know, I was actually rooting for Ron Paul. But after I realized it was a lost cause in this race, I turned to the next best option in my opinion.

 

+1

 

Well I have a problem with someone saying it's the rich mans civil duty to pay
more taxes so that money can be redistributed for the masses. This is the land
of oppurtunity not the land of handouts! Just like people complaining about
record profits of Opec. If you look at the break down of a gallon of gasoline if you
take out costs of refinery and distribution the goverment has a lot bigger hand in
cost due to taxes then the profit of the company. They keep getting record profits
cause we keep using record amounts of gasoline.

Anyways atleast this is some new drama to read except reading about street races or builds....lmao

 

ok maybe I used the word socialism to freely, but what would you call the taxing
of the rich and giving it to the poor to make a more equal society? Robin Hoodism?

 

well i kind of expected things to get more hood with a black man in the whitehouse. i just didn't realize it would be robin hood.