I installed the Revolver cams and vishnu cam gears today, and now have a really loud lifter noise. I searched and found some videos of other people with a similar noise but this seems much louder than that. I didn't bleed the lifters and am wondering if that is what is causing the problem. It seems pretty constant at any RPM. I checked the gears and the timing marks line up, so it doesn't out of time. Any help is geartly appreciated.

If anyone local has any advice or wants to take a listen, the car is located in Renton (keeping it parked for now).

 

yah, most likely it's air trapped in the lifters, never worked on an Evo, but a previous car I did a cam/lifters replacement, I let my lifters set in oil for a couple hours to make sure no air was trapped before I installed them

 

My HKS cams make some noise when the car is slightly warm but, goes away when it gets to full operating temp. Did you install the springs and retainers w/ those cams? It could be just the aggressive lift in those cams that is causing more noise then normal. You should send an email to Revolver and see what they recommend.

 

I'm thinking it might be because I did not replace all the springs and retainers. I planned to pull everything apart in the near future again for other work and was going to replace them then. From the input I've had the stock springs might be bottoming out from the added lift. Looks like the new pieces are going in tonight...

 

let us know how it goes...

 

Aside from the lifter noise problem, the car is very lumpy at idle and sounded really good but the car would stall once and a while when trying to back it up. I really didn't drive it anywhere though.

 

Shiv can take care of the rough idle for you. My car was real lumpy. Now it's pretty smooth w/ just a hint of lumpyness. I actually liked the lumpy idle, but Shiv said too bad .

Keep us updated on your progress.

 

I actually really like the way it sounded. Kinda bummed that I have to wait now.

So I pulled it apart last night and after a lot of research found out that the springs were probably bottoming out, so just put the stock cams back in but at least put in the new cam gears from Vishnu. I have all the new springs and retainers that came with the revolver cams, but the tools I went to try and rent to pull them out are all designed to work with the head out of the car. Looks like it'll be a few weeks more until everything goes together.

 

If the Evo head is like the regular Lancer head, those on-the-car valve spring tools are a huge PITA. I've found it easier to just remove the whole head to do the springs In the meantime, you may want to remove the valve adjusters and let them soak in oil for a little while. I used a wire to open the valve inside of them so they'd fill with oil. They're self adjusting (nice!) so if they're a little stiff, they'll soften up. If they're too soft, they should stiffen up, but that's easier said than done and tehy may need a little help.

You gave the impression that you'd only had the car running for a little while.... when I did my install it took about 10 minutes at idle for the valve retainers to fill and stop the clicking.

 

Did you set the gears at -5 and install the Stage 1 map? I saw cars that gained 15-20whp w/ just cam gears on the stage 1 map last year.

 

I just set at -2, and -2. Revolver recommended -2 and +6 for max torque. What do you guys have them set at?

I set up the stage 1 map, running about 1.4 - 1.5 bar boost.

Also I think I found a tool that will work to pull the springs out with the head still on the car. Take a look at KD 3271:

http://www.mytoolstore.com/kd/kdengi13.html

 

That looks exactly like the tool Sears sells for on-the-block removal. I could not get it to fit at all, and the "teeth" on the ends of the legs were too fat to fit between the coils of the springs...... but maybe I'm we todd did? I wouldn't mind a tutorial- maybe I'm doing something wrong....

 

My gears are set to -3/-3 w/ the HKS 272's. Vishnu recommends -5/-5 for cars w/ out cams and the XEDE Stage 1.

 

i have -2 , -2 on mine right now but will probably play with it when shiv gets here. i have the hks 264/264 setup

 

Cool thanks. I'll probably reset them this weekend. Here's a couple of camera phone pics from the other night: