ECUTEK Vs. Traditional Flash's?
 

What does the ECUTEK flash offer over a traditional flash? Do you offer the P0300 code fix that some tuners offer? Can you do a dual stage mapping that AL does on his Evo's with Alky?

I am mostly interested in Alky and having it run seemlessly, I know AL offers a dual stage flash with a traditional flash but what does ECUTEK offer in terms of a superior flash and running ALKY?

Exactly how Al or anyone has set up dual stage mapping for a stock ecu is beyond me.
It is absolutely impossible to have more than one map inputed into the stock ecu.
You can't just "switch" on and off a more or less aggressive map.
As far as the P0300 code is concerned, We use the most recent file for that specific ECU.
To Date, even with those who claim to have had the code appear in the past, we have not had a single case of 0300 show up after flashing them with the Ecutek based program.

Now as far as dual stages are concerned, some may have a misrepresentation or have been mislead to believe that it is the case.
The only way you would be able to even begin to claim dual stage capabilities, would be to have the car mapped with pump gas, at a specific boost level, then (also known as percentage of load, airflow or whatever) past that point, the upper areas of load and rpm could be set to run a bit more aggressively. So that for example when the stock ecu "sees" the increase in airflow, like when the customer turns the boost up above a specified level, the stock ecu would run in those zones.
This however is a very dangerous game to play as interpolation is used by the stock ecu to reach a desired ignition and fueling point for the engine.
An over boost on pump gas would be detromental if it were to run in those zones.

Now on some AEM EMS units we have run dual stage "style" maps. Like when the Alky switch is turned on via the EMS or manually, it will ground or "turn" the boost up to a certain point. Where the EMS would run off a secondary "nitrous" table. These tables modify the final fuel and ignition calculation made from the base look up table and any other modifiers, with either a percentage of fuel + or -. or an increase or decrease in timing. Again only when the switch is tripped.

The difference here though is that the EMS has modify"able" tables to work with, the stock ecu does not.
To offer a customer dual stage mapping with a flash is just a flat out lie. It is unethical without explanation. It could and probably at some point be harmful to the customer. Especially if running an alky setup that requires a VERY aggressive ignition and fuel adjustment.

Nick #1

So you are saying that it is one BIG map set for all boost and load levels. So if there is an ACCIDENTAL overboost the car will blow on pump gas? I guess that makes sense but what is wrong with that? As long as that end user keeps the boost in proper levels you should be ok?


Well then how does ECUTEK offer a better tune then a Traditional Flash? That I really don't get and a lot of Vendors (you, Turbo Trixx, Al, IV Tune) have boasted it but I have NO IDEA what it offers over a traditionl flash.


Also, how does ECUTEK control the use of ALKY then and is that safe compaired to a dual stage flash which seems to be dependent on boost.



Thanks so much for your time Nick......

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I think a true dual stage flash will cost you a second ecu and a trip to the dealership to key it. But that really doesn't sound that bad. Correct me if I'm wrong everyone

HUH? MANY vendors are pushing the ECUTEK flash over a tradiotnal flash, I am just wondering why is all, what makes it better, physical attributes, data, what?

i would like to know this too

Yeah it's a good question right? I am not calling B.S. but just want some substance to claims is all.

The difference is in the programing software that your tuner uses, it has more features built in to the software so you tuner does not have to play the guessing game to aquire some of the options like "2 stage rpm limiter" that ecutek has already incorporated. Overall it is a better platform to tune with, but I believe ecutek and techtom are both capable of identical results, but techtom will leave you "interpeting code" to get there. Please correct me if I am wrong.