EvolutionM - Mitsubishi Lancer and Lancer Evolution Community

EvolutionM - Mitsubishi Lancer and Lancer Evolution Community (https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/)
-   ECU Flash (https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ecu-flash-179/)
-   -   Ignition Retard Limit (https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ecu-flash/375862-ignition-retard-limit.html)

Brad74 Dec 17, 2009 09:26 PM

What would be the table adress for 88580714 V7, Original ROM 88840016 on EDM Evo, thanks...

Oracle1 Dec 18, 2009 02:14 AM

I have rom 88570008.

Mine says 28 for the 1st, -10 for the 2nd.

Should I change the 28 to -15?


Originally Posted by mrfred (Post 7809813)
Both are -10.4 deg on stock 8859 and 9653 ROMs. Don't know what ROM you have.


mrfred Dec 18, 2009 07:12 AM

Updated my earlier post to cover most all newer non-USDM ROMs.

Brad74 Dec 18, 2009 07:44 AM

thanks MrFred...

rolly1818 Dec 18, 2009 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by mrfred (Post 7809990)
what's your exact rom id?


88570008 - jdm ix

mrfred Dec 18, 2009 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by rolly1818 (Post 7811452)
88570008 - jdm ix

Added to my earlier post.

evodziobak Dec 20, 2009 01:35 PM

3 Attachment(s)
9417XXXX has only one ignition retard limit table:

<scaling name="IgnTimingECUa" units="deg" toexpr="61-x*90/256" frexpr="(61-x)*256/90" format="%.1f" min="-30" max="50" inc="1" storagetype="uint16" endian="big"/>
<table name="Ignition Retard Limit #2" category="Timing" address="173e" type="1D" level="1" scaling="IgnTimingECUa"/>[/quote]

I tried it out today. Generaly no retard below -10. In the last log I got -12.7 in only one cell. Attaching my maps and two logs. ROM is 94170015.

Brad74 Dec 20, 2009 11:30 PM

Do we need to richen the fuel cells or can we let 14.7 AFR ?

Danieln Dec 21, 2009 04:29 AM

This will never work because we will need a special separate map for TPS when the ALS will be activated (jacked open throttle).

The TPS Retard value from this so called TPS retard map must be a retard value from the base ignition map.

With the tables that we have at this moment we can`t run ALS properly.

Only tephra maybe he can give birth to this options using a tephra mod patch for the cars with ALS system available....

Danieln Dec 21, 2009 05:26 AM

The TPS Retard parameter must be taken from the TPS Retard map.

Probably other criterion must be met in order to make the ALS working.

When the ALS will be active a different closed throttle condition is allowed for.

With the ALS program enabled the ignition timing must be modified by the TPS Retard map.

Some other maps must be available in order to run ALS (Spark Map Limit and Fuel Limit).

A proportion of injection events and of sparks will be disabled by the limiter
functions (limits will be taken from the FUEL and Spark limits maps).

The Spark Limit map dictates the level of ignition events removed vs. engine speed and throttle position. The Fuel limit map dictates the level of fuel injection events removed vs. engine speed and throttle position.

The TPS Retard map will dictate the level of ignition retard to be applied vs. engine speed and throttle position.

Probably the OEM ECU can be programmed to run a proper Anti Lag setup but this must be made by adding a special patch to the rom.

rolly1818 Dec 22, 2009 03:42 AM

ok so i put in the tables - 88570008 here.

i am seeing 25.8 in one and -10.8 in the other.

how do i acheive approximately -15?

Thanks

Oracle1 Dec 22, 2009 04:06 AM

Just change both tables to -25.8.

... And get ready for the loud explosions if you put -20 in the timing maps!

SK

rolly1818 Dec 22, 2009 04:27 AM

ohhh thanks :)

i sent you a PM as well.

Oracle1 Dec 22, 2009 06:35 AM

Use load 40 if you really want to go mental! LOL try it.

evodziobak Dec 23, 2009 01:03 AM


Originally Posted by Danieln (Post 7818734)
This will never work because we will need a special separate map for TPS when the ALS will be activated (jacked open throttle).

The TPS Retard value from this so called TPS retard map must be a retard value from the base ignition map.

With the tables that we have at this moment we can`t run ALS properly.

Only tephra maybe he can give birth to this options using a tephra mod patch for the cars with ALS system available....

I'm not looking for a real ALS right now. I just want to retard the ignition more then -10 to get the loud shots just for fun. The tables did not work for me on the 94170015, I'll try it out on the new tephra v7 96530706 with the different tables when I get back home. Any one can confirm that it works on the 96530706?


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:42 PM.


© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands