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golgo13 Sep 6, 2013 02:05 PM

Ah, I see.

I had made an assumption that this was mostly a new exhaust manifold being offered to mate with an FP turbo, but now I see that it's potentially greater than that.

So this testing is for just one component of a twin scroll set-up? Forgive my naïveté as my knowledge regarding turbocharged vehicles is mediocre at best.

aggieEVO Sep 6, 2013 02:21 PM

Would LOVE to see and FP manifold for stock frame turbos.

Edit: Especially if they're priced as well as the DSM counterpart.

boostedwrx Sep 6, 2013 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by aggieEVO (Post 10949078)
Would LOVE to see and FP manifold for stock frame turbos.

Edit: Especially if they're priced as well as the DSM counterpart.

Same here. I would bet it's coming soon because when you cast something you usually have more than 1 unit made :lol:

mrfred Sep 6, 2013 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by golgo13 (Post 10949062)
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So this testing is for just one component of a twin scroll set-up? Forgive my naïveté as my knowledge regarding turbocharged vehicles is mediocre at best.

i imagine that they are now optimizing all aspects of the turbo, e.g., hotside geometry, wheel shapes/sizes. could be one of the most exciting things to happen to the evo in a long while.

aggieEVO Sep 6, 2013 02:40 PM

Hey FP, I'm right down the road if you need to test this on a stock VIII :)

03whitegsr Sep 6, 2013 04:27 PM

I think you could implement the divided external fairly well on a cast setup. At the very least, I would bet it maintains the divided inlet setup on the manifold and turbine housing so you could use either part independently of the other. The housing could open up though and become single scroll after the inlet flange. I would be very surprised though, as FP isn't going to make that change willy-nilly and I'd be shocked if their testing didn't show superior performance with the fully divided setup. It's fun to speculate.


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ETS Michael Sep 6, 2013 04:53 PM

You need to tell Robert to get you a new camera! :) Looks good man!

Michael

batty200 Sep 6, 2013 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by 03whitegsr (Post 10949203)
I think you could implement the divided external fairly well on a cast setup. At the very least, I would bet it maintains the divided inlet setup on the manifold and turbine housing so you could use either part independently of the other. The housing could open up though and become single scroll after the inlet flange. I would be very surprised though, as FP isn't going to make that change willy-nilly and I'd be shocked if their testing didn't show superior performance with the fully divided setup. It's fun to speculate.


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I would be stunned if it wasn't twin scroll. The stock wastegate uses a single flapper. Casting the twin scroll just like the stock would be easy. One wastegate can seal it.

adriano_917 Sep 7, 2013 03:27 PM

Lets just hope they offer it to the public and its not crazy $$$ like other manifolds.

Benja Sep 7, 2013 05:31 PM

Nothing worth waiting for is cheap. ^^^

Nimpoc Sep 7, 2013 09:03 PM

All the awesome FP talk aside (guess I'll be waiting a little longer to order that upgrade!), does anyone have a suggestion for restrictor orifice diameter to be used between a single exhaust manifold runner and eMAP sensor?

I tapped my EGR valve housing for a nipple, then ran a small length of hose to the sensor (Kavlico to Zeitronix). Currently there's about a 1.25mm (.050") orifice in line to damp pressure, but I still get a real noisy signal. What are others using to attenuate the pulses?

mrfred Sep 8, 2013 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by Nimpoc (Post 10950332)
All the awesome FP talk aside (guess I'll be waiting a little longer to order that upgrade!), does anyone have a suggestion for restrictor orifice diameter to be used between a single exhaust manifold runner and eMAP sensor?

I tapped my EGR valve housing for a nipple, then ran a small length of hose to the sensor (Kavlico to Zeitronix). Currently there's about a 1.25mm (.050") orifice in line to damp pressure, but I still get a real noisy signal. What are others using to attenuate the pulses?

I'm using no special orifice, just 1/8" diameter tubing like what FP is using. It has about a ~0.055" ID. For about a 2.5 foot long run, I've got about 4 psi of max noise (see my HTA Green dyno thread). It could be better, but I can still easily calculate the ratio of turbine to boost pressure.

nightwalker Sep 8, 2013 08:43 PM

Owens development?

BriK Sep 9, 2013 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by golgo13 (Post 10948829)
I would love to see some back-to-back testing of this vs. OEM vs. ported OEM exhaust manifolds.

I'd throw the MAP short-runner into that mix as well.

aggieEVO Sep 9, 2013 07:53 AM

More teasers/info please!


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