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griceiv May 18, 2015 07:24 PM

seems like a complicated solution to something a hammer could fix.

:D

240Z TwinTurbo May 19, 2015 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by griceiv (Post 11447896)
seems like a complicated solution to something a hammer could fix.

:D

I wish it where that easy! :crap:

kelvinTME May 19, 2015 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by 240Z TwinTurbo (Post 11448027)
I wish it where that easy! :crap:

Sounds like you need a bigger hammer then :lol:

LetsGetThisDone May 20, 2015 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by griceiv (Post 11447896)
seems like a complicated solution to something a hammer could fix.

:D



What are you going to hit with the hammer? A punch? Hitting metal on metal in rising fuel vapor sounds like a good time....

TheBoz May 20, 2015 09:49 AM

On my pump the support bracket was up a little higher so I was able to just adjust the hose.

I tried the double gasket route, but did not have those nifty barrel nut things. But when I first put the pump in I did not notice any issues. It was only once the tank got to be close to empty, and I could hear the sucking. So I did not have any fuel pressure issues, but the sucking noise let me to start looking. I adjusted the height of the pumps just to be safe.

I am on the same pumps as you.

240Z TwinTurbo Dec 30, 2018 12:51 PM

Figured I would update this thread since I am adding to this setup. After experiencing a clacking noise in my MIVEC gear I decided to freshen up the motor, which had ~65K miles on my Curt Brown 10:1 2L and about 90K miles on my Curt Brown ported head with R2's. I had originally purchased the R2 cams wanting to do a stroker motor so I decided to have Curt build me a 2.15L with the Eagle 94mm crank and their extreme rods with Asymetric JE pistons.

Crank is 94mm Eagle 2037005900B7
JE Asymmetrical 297479
Eagle extreme connecting rods CRS5900MBXD

Motor (short block and head) arrived last week so parts are on their way and should arrive January 3rd to put it back together.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.evo...d4b25ff57b.jpg

I then pulled the engine trans and pressure washed the engine compartment and subframe. I'll update as I make progress.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.evo...162fa8c28b.jpg

240Z TwinTurbo Jan 2, 2019 09:34 AM

I think I found the source of what I thought was my MIVEC gear making a clacking noise. When I pulled the front plastic cover off the 2L I found the entire front of the oil pump housing was covered in thick black grease. Upon further inspection the timing belt tensioner had taken a dump likely causing the time belt to slap against something. It was late last night when I took this apart so I haven't tried to determine what the belt was hitting. Now just debating whether to use or return the $375 new MIVEC gear I purchased. The pics below are after I spent 20 minutes trying to wipe it clean.


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.evo...d8e84521ae.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.evo...566bebcec6.jpg

LetsGetThisDone Jan 2, 2019 11:11 AM

Wow, I've never seen that happen. How many miles were on it? What were you revving that engine to?

211Ratsbud Jan 2, 2019 04:37 PM

Cut that mivec gear a few degrees extra 😁. Let me know if you can make it to 50° adv lol.

mrfred Jan 2, 2019 06:35 PM

Nice to see an update. Sounds like you are lucky that the timing belt didn't skip some teeth. Will you be putting it on the dyno after its all back together?

240Z TwinTurbo Jan 3, 2019 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by 211ratsbud (Post 11854884)
Cut that mivec gear a few degrees extra 😁. Let me know if you can make it to 50° adv lol.

Not sure if there is any benefit in spool past 40-42deg


Originally Posted by mrfred (Post 11854898)
Nice to see an update. Sounds like you are lucky that the timing belt didn't skip some teeth. Will you be putting it on the dyno after its all back together?

Lucky indeed and yes, will generate DynoJet numbers. Still have access to the same dyno with my historic graphs.


Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone (Post 11854826)
Wow, I've never seen that happen. How many miles were on it? What were you revving that engine to?

~70K miles & ~9K

LetsGetThisDone Jan 3, 2019 10:08 AM

I wonder if it was a fluke, or if those of us running our cars hard should look into replacing that more often.

Strm Trpr Jan 3, 2019 10:57 AM

Gen 1 or Gen 2 GTX3582R?
And what are your thoughts of the 1.06 A/R ATP TS T4 turbine housing vs the 1.01 A/R V-band turbine housing in terms of bottom-end spool response, transient response and top end power?

240Z TwinTurbo Jan 4, 2019 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by Strm Trpr (Post 11854986)
Gen 1 or Gen 2 GTX3582R?
And what are your thoughts of the 1.06 A/R ATP TS T4 turbine housing vs the 1.01 A/R V-band turbine housing in terms of bottom-end spool response, transient response and top end power?

Gen 1

I posted all the data comparing the two, but difficult to answer your question. Ran the vband housing on a long tube runner and the T4 TS on a short tube runner so obviously the short tube runner will provide better spool. The 1.01 a/r v-band TS is equivalent to a 1.01 a/r OS in terms of cross sectional flow area so it is significantly larger than a 1.06 a/r TS that is probably equivalent to a 0.75 a/r OS in terms of cross sectional flow area.

Strm Trpr Jan 4, 2019 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by 240Z TwinTurbo (Post 11855117)
Gen 1

I posted all the data comparing the two, but difficult to answer your question. Ran the vband housing on a long tube runner and the T4 TS on a short tube runner so obviously the short tube runner will provide better spool. The 1.01 a/r v-band TS is equivalent to a 1.01 a/r OS in terms of cross sectional flow area so it is significantly larger than a 1.06 a/r TS that is probably equivalent to a 0.75 a/r OS in terms of cross sectional flow area.

ahhh, gotcha, thank you for the info.


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