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Pal215 Mar 14, 2019 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 11864344)
Can someone explain the "have to" part? Cause I'm not doing any of this ****. I can pay fines, I don't give a ****, but I'm not returning anything back to stock. I'll register out of state if I have to.

What is there to return back to stock? Every last part is aftermarket. The valve cover, the oil pan and everything in between. Please smugly reply to this post with "can't do the time, don't do the crime" and put another thin blue line sticker on your bumper.

Sorry to say Name_User, but he is right. Every last thing has to go back to stock except for a quiet cat back exaust. Everything under the hood without a CARB number as well. They are irrationally uptight and strict about it. I have a few friends that claim if you sell the car to a friend and buy it back, the ref ticket will drop, but I don't believe them.


Originally Posted by evostanman (Post 11864346)
In my case I had to go back to stock. I wasn't too far in with my mods. Down pipe, cat, exhaust, cams, injectors and intake. All back to stock.


I think you're ok with the valve cover, oil pan and everything in between. They just look under your hood but most importantly they look for that damn CVN number.

Congrats on passing Evostanman,

I know the feeling very well. F!@# those guys. They waste so much of your time and effort. It really does put a bad taste to modding your car. I always preach to people that if you don't know how to work on your car in CA, don't you DARE touch it because if you have to return it to stock for a state ref, you'll be paying to reverse the work and THEN reinstall it :lol:. It's good that you know how. I have since built a "CA Referee kit" in my garage with all stock components for the unfortunate, stormy day. I guess it's better than having your car towed, impounded, or crushed by the Nazi's.



Originally Posted by Biggiesacks (Post 11864391)
doing some quick searching it seems like it should be possible to set what ever reported CVN you like, or at least people have figured it out on other platforms. See here https://forum.efilive.com/showthread...VN-s-Explained. This could probably be added to the forced pass patch.

Nice find Biggie!

Anything that helps get us by this messed up test is gold. You might say that I was traumatized by my experience with the reff station. To add insult to injury, they don't even help schedule a visit for you. They want YOU to call the ref station, be put on hold, and schedule a visit to be scrutinized yourself lmao. That's like making someone schedule a date an time for a horseman to shoot them in the a$$ with an arrow because of some unreasonable rules that a distant dictator has created. Medieval thinking here....

LetsGetThisDone Mar 14, 2019 03:49 PM

Looks like ECUFlash V1.44 can read the CVN/checksum. Probably just need some additional XML to make a table and change the code.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ec...-released.html

Pal215 Mar 14, 2019 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone (Post 11864532)
Looks like ECUFlash V1.44 can read the CVN/checksum. Probably just need some additional XML to make a table and change the code.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ec...-released.html


Agreed,

We can treat it just like the immobilizer code. Downloaded from the original base 9 rom and copy/paste it in

empunker Mar 14, 2019 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 11864344)
Can someone explain the "have to" part? Cause I'm not doing any of this ****. I can pay fines, I don't give a ****, but I'm not returning anything back to stock. I'll register out of state if I have to.

What is there to return back to stock? Every last part is aftermarket. The valve cover, the oil pan and everything in between. Please smugly reply to this post with "can't do the time, don't do the crime" and put another thin blue line sticker on your bumper.

I think you just explained it to yourself... :lol:

Pal215 Mar 14, 2019 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by empunker (Post 11864538)
I think you just explained it to yourself... :lol:


That's an option, but if they find out that you live and drive here, it can be called out as tax evasion. Still, i'd likely do it too :lol: You need someone to live out there and forward the mail about your car to you. You may also be pestered about registering your car to CA with the law enforcement.

Name User Mar 14, 2019 08:19 PM

Since Gavin is reading this thread, here's my proposal: I pay $200 per month for some miserable loser to drive around in an electric Fiat 500e, while I get an exemption and run a hood dump.

Everybody wins.

California is already a classist dystopia so let's keep going, let's feel good about capitalism. Moms love it, liberals love it, and I can learn to love it too.

Pal215 Mar 15, 2019 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 11864588)
Since Gavin is reading this thread, here's my proposal: I pay $200 per month for some miserable loser to drive around in an electric Fiat 500e, while I get an exemption and run a hood dump.

Everybody wins.

California is already a classist dystopia so let's keep going, let's feel good about capitalism. Moms love it, liberals love it, and I can learn to love it too.

This could work!

LetsGetThisDone Mar 15, 2019 10:47 AM

Reg in Montana with an LLC.

Lumpy Sticks Mar 15, 2019 11:22 AM

What I have noticed is that CHP tends to leave you alone if you have out of state plates. I have yet to be harassed by them and there have been a couple times they could have easily pulled me over.

Pal215 Mar 15, 2019 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by Lumpy Sticks (Post 11864654)
What I have noticed is that CHP tends to leave you alone if you have out of state plates. I have yet to be harassed by them and there have been a couple times they could have easily pulled me over.

That's true, I've noticed that as well with a friend who just moved in from out of state. I find it best to fall back into the middle and right lanes when CHP is around. I've even pulled maneuvers like driving besides larger vehicles to hide away until the coast is clear. Out of site, out of mind.

seven10 Mar 18, 2019 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by Lumpy Sticks (Post 11864654)
What I have noticed is that CHP tends to leave you alone if you have out of state plates. I have yet to be harassed by them and there have been a couple times they could have easily pulled me over.

Not true anymore, or at least since AB 1824 went into effect. CHP has started pulling over cars with out of state plates if they sound too loud and they see them more than a few times. Even if you have an out of state license to match, they could choose to build a case against you to prove you're a resident based on how often they've come across you and extract that $$$ CA wants.

Seriously though, this state keeps finding ways to make residents less free and pay up for B$. If I can get my job to let me work remote this year I'll for sure leave, otherwise I'll keep on my job hunt until I find something decent out of state.

letMeIn Mar 20, 2019 11:50 AM

why would anyone want to live in CA ?

Pal215 Mar 20, 2019 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by letMeIn (Post 11865252)
why would anyone want to live in CA ?


The food, the weather, the diversity, and the women. It's expensive and frustrating, don't get me wrong, but it's hard to leave once you've been raised here :lol:. You just have to have the right connections.

MinusPrevious Mar 20, 2019 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by letMeIn (Post 11865252)
why would anyone want to live in CA ?

The Exodus from CA has been going on for years & is accelerating. Ask those that live in NV / AZ / OR / WA / ID / MT

The price of my home in CA, i could cash purchase a 3K sq ft home in a neighboring state & have much money left over

seven10 Mar 20, 2019 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by letMeIn (Post 11865252)
why would anyone want to live in CA ?

I got a good job here after college, can't complain about the weather either. Just the cities and state are run terribly so I'm looking to head back to the north east in the near future.


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