i cant run race fuel. There is many reason for that. Anyway , thanks for the comment :)
/we did run race fuel before(104), and really wasn't worthy for us by a big margin./
but myabe the new engine will require it. depends what we will decide to build.

that doesnt count for how many people you influence to go that way also. if modding were a real disease that hurt people, a lot of people would be dead, myself included

I am going with H beams. Mike at GST uses them in his race car's and thinks they are the best rod for my goals. He decided to go with them as they are lighter and I want 9K plus rpm's and they are rated at a way higher HP level than I will ever want in a street car. As he has built many engine's I decided to go with his advice and see how it works out. I am using the Brian Crower H beams that are rated at 1000 hp. And he told me they are good for 800 easy at the tire on his dyno. As I am not looking to go over 650 I like the lighter weight.

Murlo you are wrong. 29 psi and 10.5:1 on 93 octane is no problem.

Well you might be able to do it, but I am just saying imo it's not smart. I know you know way more than I and perhaps your 93 octane is better than ours locally.

I am going based off my tuners advice who has done tons of high compression motors and he literally doesn't tune high compression evos aggressively unless they are running good fuel.

Even Mikey (FP black evo 9 record guy) said his car couldn't run **** for boost without knocking on pump gas on higher boost, he only ran like 23psi on pump. Also AMS expresses "extreme caution" when running pump on high compression.

I am not saying you are right and I fully respect your opinion, I am just saying its not worth it, all it does is increase potential problems on pump gas, I mean what advantages do you really gain?

Regardless if I lived near you I would let you tune/work on my car but I don't so I listen to my tuner and I think for safety sake pump gas is a no no on that high of compression.

Idk how 10.5 and 29psi could possibly be safe.
But what do I know.....

what direction do pistons go in a motor again?
*ducks and hides*

It's more like a $400 difference.

I built my new engine with Manley H-beam rods for 4 reasons. Cost. Reciprocating weight savings - the H-beams are literally 100 g lighter IIRC. They will handle roughly 700 WHP just fine, which is the most I'll ever want to make with my Evo X. And conversely, they limit me to not making any more power than a PT 6262 or similarly-sized turbo will make {thumbup}

I'm all about longevity and bearing reliability for this mild build, and the H-beams were the way to go. This block will probably see a LOT of miles just highway cruising. ;)

well post up results once you get it built and tuned

In for some results, I also don't see myself going above 600whp especially on fp red which I think maxs out at 550whp! And hey if.I could save a couple hundred dollars why not?

Well just blew my stock motor on FP black E85 AMS tuned on 29psi... I basically pulled the whole wrist pin out of the piston.. Im undecided on what motor to do yet. Maybe the AMS 900x 2.2l ... we will see I want to push this FP black as far as I can.

Damn already? Didn't you just get tuned last week?

If your going H beam Carrillo is where you want to go {thumbup}, but your going to pay for those sexy rods with gold bars.

As for the 10.0:1 or 10.5:1, don't want to get into a slap-fest but with 93 you'll be fine AS LONG AS YOUR TUNER IS GOOD. All ways better to be using a Pectal ecu :)

actually the Pectel or Cosworth might be will happen :)

i might have plans for a full stand alone wiring harness for a Pectel with stand alone active diff, power, ect :)

I said 29 isn't a problem......34 psi at 11.5:1 isn't either but is getting closer to the safe limits.

You can't take a bunch of crap and throw it together and expect to run high boost on pump gas, with any compression ratio.