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kyoo Dec 31, 2024 06:26 AM

with Dallas's rear trailing arms + rear bumper tab modification, can we fit an 18x10 +40 square?

kikiturbo Dec 31, 2024 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by Dallas J (Post 11983171)
Is that kit able to check at different duty cycles?


yes, different rpm, pulse width.... no matter, every time the same injectors are off... This is almost 7% difference... looks like two sets of injectors really..
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.evo...aee3ea1a9f.jpg

Dallas J Dec 31, 2024 09:29 AM

Guessing stock ECU doesn't have any tuning paths for per-cyl trims? That data would be good for standalone setups.

Construct Dec 31, 2024 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by kyoo (Post 11983178)
with Dallas's rear trailing arms + rear bumper tab modification, can we fit an 18x10 +40 square?

I fit 18x10 with 265s on stock suspension with only a fender roll, careful alignment, and some fine tuning of the spacers. IIRC, the net offset in the rear (wheel offset + spacers) needed to be around +35. With aftermarket trailing arms you'd probably be fine with 18x10 +40 in the rear without spacers.

Up front you'll want spacers to clear the brakes.

Construct Dec 31, 2024 09:55 AM

If you've rotated them through different combinations of position and wire and the results consistently follow the injector, I'd assume the results are correct.

How do you like that cheap injector tester? I have a local shop that will clean and test a set of 4 injectors for just under $100. Having the machine in my garage for $300 sounds appealing, other than letting it collect dust most of the year.

kikiturbo Dec 31, 2024 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by Dallas J (Post 11983186)
Guessing stock ECU doesn't have any tuning paths for per-cyl trims? That data would be good for standalone setups.

IIRC evo X has individual trim but not e9. You are right, it is interesting option for standalone ecu's but I would never run a set of injectors that is this far off.

kikiturbo Dec 31, 2024 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by Construct (Post 11983188)
If you've rotated them through different combinations of position and wire and the results consistently follow the injector, I'd assume the results are correct.

How do you like that cheap injector tester? I have a local shop that will clean and test a set of 4 injectors for just under $100. Having the machine in my garage for $300 sounds appealing, other than letting it collect dust most of the year.

Having seen what I have seen, I would have it on the shelf, just to test the injectors as a part of yearly service. Might be even more important for you run E85.

It probably unusable for detailed flow mapping (might be upgraded with better pressure regulator and better injector drivers) but for cleaning and basic testing I think it is money well spent. I also invested in proper testing fluid. I am biased tho, like to buy tools.. haha

LetsGetThisDone Jan 2, 2025 03:45 AM


Originally Posted by kikiturbo
anyone ever do some injector testing?

I just bought one of those cheap injector cleaning and testing machines and decide to try it on several sets of injectors I had lying around.. After getting to know it a bit I threw in a set of ASNU 1000 injectors from I friends evo 9 that I am rebuilding and found that one injector was reading about 10 % higher... After some cleaning got other 3 to be within 2% of each other but one was still 10% higher... Luckily I had a brand new set of the identical ASNU 1000 lying around... so wanted to use that.. but decided to test those too.... and would you guess what.. all 4 were all over the place with one again 10% higher...
Now, I do not think it is the machine problem as it does not matter which trigger lead is connected to which injector or what their position on the rail is.. I have tried..

I was always happy with asnu but this is worrying me a bit..
Just to add.. the car did want to idle on 3 cyl lately, which could be caused by that rich injector..

What fuel pump is the test bench using? Most of them don't come with a big enough pump for even 1000cc injectors if you're running all 4 at once.

kikiturbo Jan 2, 2025 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by LetsGetThisDone (Post 11983228)
What fuel pump is the test bench using? Most of them don't come with a big enough pump for even 1000cc injectors if you're running all 4 at once.

they are sequentially fired and the fuel pressure doesnt fluctuate too much... might upgrade it to 255 warlbro later..

LetsGetThisDone Jan 2, 2025 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by kikiturbo
they are sequentially fired and the fuel pressure doesnt fluctuate too much... might upgrade it to 255 warlbro later..

That fluctuation can easily make for inconsistent results.

kyoo Jan 3, 2025 12:56 PM

Sorry to rehash this but I'm pulling in some discussion from another thread:

I currently/have run 265/35-18s on a 18x9.5 +28 with no issues with rubbing etc - just rolled rear fenders. If I'm looking to jump to an 18x10.5 +22 (offset not my choice) on 285/30-18s, what more should be done? SSB rear trailing arm, maybe some pulling of the rear fender, and relocating the bumper tab - would that do it? And for the front, what do I need to do for clearance? Would I have to run a spacer? roll the front fenders? SSB front arms too? I've currently got caster plates + the WL bushing in the arm to keep the front wheel centered. I'm on relatively soft 8k/12k spring rates too so the body of the car is gonna move, but I also run the car a little higher than most.

So frustrating how much body work is needed with to keep up with modern cars.

@Vicious LSD

ViciousLSD Jan 3, 2025 01:14 PM

285/30 is sorter. so check how much room you have going inwards. and find the offset that gives you the maximum you can go inwards. get a higher offset wheel (30-40) so you can use spacers(washers) to tweak.

kyoo Jan 3, 2025 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by ViciousLSD (Post 11983270)
285/30 is sorter. so check how much room you have going inwards. and find the offset that gives you the maximum you can go inwards. get a higher offset wheel (30-40) so you can use spacers(washers) to tweak.

problem is the only wheel I like only comes in 18x10 +40 or 18x10.5 +22. the latter will at least keep the wheel father away from the suspension in the front. to get ssb rear arms at some point. is it just gonna require a massive amount of pulling in curb the front and rear? I've got a body ship but I trust but worried about how much damage we'll be doing to a relatively clean body
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ViciousLSD Jan 3, 2025 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by kyoo (Post 11983272)
problem is the only wheel I like only comes in 18x10 +40 or 18x10.5 +22. the latter will at least keep the wheel father away from the suspension in the front. to get ssb rear arms at some point. is it just gonna require a massive amount of pulling in curb the front and rear? I've got a body ship but I trust but worried about how much damage we'll be doing to a relatively clean body
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nope. 10.5 +22 is 6.7mm closer (i think you should have that). 18.7mm outward... you can put 18mm worth of washers on your current wheel to visualize

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.evo...0df4b0a05c.jpg

Siluck2 Jan 3, 2025 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by kyoo (Post 11983272)
problem is the only wheel I like only comes in 18x10 +40 or 18x10.5 +22. the latter will at least keep the wheel father away from the suspension in the front. to get ssb rear arms at some point. is it just gonna require a massive amount of pulling in curb the front and rear? I've got a body ship but I trust but worried about how much damage we'll be doing to a relatively clean body
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https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.evo...963b2a135.jpeg
this is a 10.5” +25 with 285/30/18 Nankang. It’s pretty tight on the body with +25


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