Rise of the Phoenix
When I started building my evo I always had a goal of building the “ultimate street car”. I always keep this in mind as the car keeps evolving. But not only do I love driving it on the streets, I LOVE racing it! Over the years I’ve had a lot of fun and success (wins at Modified Mag’s Ultimate Street Car Shootout, DSM Shootout, Winged Warrior, Sport Compact Shootout, Import Face Off). I had what I thought was the perfect setup, so I didn't really change much over the years. Sadly after 8 years my AMS motor gave up.
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t...psuwj8oby7.jpg Here is a breakdown of some of the old setup: AMS 2.3 Stroker 8.5:1 Pistons Tomei 280 Pro Cams AMS 850R Turbo Kit (6262) AMS Race VSR Intake Manifold AMS Race Intercooler AMS 3" Intercooler Piping Tial BOV ID2000 injectors AMS 1000 HP Fuel System AMS C.O.P. AEM V2 EMS AiM Dash Bushwacker Transmission Exedy/AMS Push Style Triple Metallic Clutch Torqueline C/F Driveshaft Ohlins FLAG Series Coilovers Volk TE37 18 x 9.5 AMS C/F Roof 777hp @40psi 9.72 @144 mph So the question became do I just rebuild the motor and stick with the standard AMS 2.3 or do I try and build something even bigger and risk giving up power band and drivability. After talking with AMS we decided that the AMS 2.3RR motor with the 4G64 block would be the best motor for me. Also going from 8.5:1 compression to 10.5:1 to help the turbo spool a bit better. I haven’t ran pump gas in over 5 years. This meant that I would now have more RPMs to play with and I could look in to upgrading my turbo setup. http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps6vwxhhto.jpg After lots and lots of research I picked the PTE 6466. I was hoping to not lose much spool and pick up a lot more on the top end. With my 6262 making 777hp I was expecting a lot out of the 6466. Also I needed a turbo kit as I wanted to move to a V-band setup from my AMS ford 5 bolt kit. Forward facing is all the rage these days but I needed the ability to run an air filter. Luckily my friends over at Buschur Racing make an amazing kit with lots of room for a filter! http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t...psr4truhyh.png With some Help from my buds Greg, Jarrod, and Rob I was able to get the motor back in the evo and to AMS Performance in just under a week! They asked me to leave the car with them so they could dial in the tune and get drivability perfect. http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t...psd4zavmbc.jpg http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t...pslvuy7rtf.jpg After waiting for what felt like forever I got a phone call. The car was at 901hp @ 32psi but the injector duty cycle was at 90% and they didn't want to go much higher than that. I told them I was comfortable running 95ish and they should push it more! haha After a few hours I got a 2nd call at the car was making 930hp @ 36 psi and the fuel was pushed as far as they felt they could. The good new was the power band was sick. It stayed over 900hp for more than 2500rpm! Over 600tq from 5000-8000 rpm!!! Here is a video of the pull! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlPb...ature=youtu.be http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t...psjli3d8ij.jpg I cant wait to get back to the track and see how she runs! Car is going to be a handful thats for sure! http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t...psljpkk6kl.jpg |
Looks awesome!
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Congrats on the numbers. I guess that AMS 1000hp fuel system isn't really a 1000hp fuel system :lol:
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Originally Posted by STLEVOIX
(Post 11426541)
Congrats on the numbers. I guess that AMS 1000hp fuel system isn't really a 1000hp fuel system :lol:
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900 horse at 32lbs is amazing for a 6466. You think if you had bigger pumps you get reach 1k?
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AMS Thought it might be possible but I would be pushing the wet block to far at that point.
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Amazing car, absolutely amazing, well done!!!
What kind of fuel is this done on? If its ethanol then that is where the disconnect is as ethanol requires more fuel which I'm sure you already know...just a thought |
Yeah it's on E85. That's probably is the reason that the fuel system is maxed before 1000hp
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930whp, well damn! She sounds hungry on the dyno! Good luck & be careful at the track sir, I'm sure she's a whole different animal now! :beer:
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Those are amazing numbers and a beautiful power band. Serious question- how long do you expect the motor/trans to hold up at that power level?
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Ha ha I would love to know! The old AMS motor lasted 8 years at 700+ hp. The trans not so much. I'm hoping for 6 years on the motor and a couple years on the trans
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8 years with 700whp is awesome!
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Yeah for sure!! I had a great run!
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Originally Posted by Bruzewski
(Post 11426625)
Ha ha I would love to know! The old AMS motor lasted 8 years at 700+ hp. The trans not so much. I'm hoping for 6 years on the motor and a couple years on the trans
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Around 28,000 miles!
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amazing.what a monster.
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Bruzewski, amazing car. I have seen it multiple times on FB.
Can I ask a favor? Can you post a pick of your front core support so I can see where you mounted your hood pins? Im torn on my location for my carbon hood. |
Looking closely at your pics, did you just use these holes that iv highlighted in Red?
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.evo...27b6585656.jpg |
more pics and vids please!
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Originally Posted by PureDsm
(Post 11426934)
Looking closely at your pics, did you just use these holes that iv highlighted in Red?]
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900HP!!! Ready to attack!!! haha!
Subscribed ;) |
Originally Posted by badev0
(Post 11426960)
900HP!!! Ready to attack!!! haha!
Subscribed ;) |
Did You Get a rebuild Buschwacker trains this year?
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Originally Posted by thepoint4life23
(Post 11427144)
Did You Get a rebuild Buschwacker trains this year?
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Nice.
I didn't realize before that the 2.3rr was a sleeved 2.4 block. I am guessing it is a long rod setup to allow the rpms. EDIT: Looking closely maybe those are just o-ring grooves. |
I always wondered how strong a sleeved 2.4 with an 85 mm bore and standard style pistons would be. That or a 2.3 long rod would both be awesome engines. Since AMS doesn't really release specs too much I wonder if it is a 2.2 crank and rods just with the larger 2.4 blocks bore making it a 2.3 that can rev high.
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No mater what this is this is a super power band. I am sure the car is amazing to drive.
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Looking good Dave cant wait to check it out at the shootout!
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Originally Posted by batty200
(Post 11428014)
No mater what this is this is a super power band. I am sure the car is amazing to drive.
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Originally Posted by JTEVO2932
(Post 11428024)
Looking good Dave cant wait to check it out at the shootout!
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Wow. Beautiful build. Looking forward to your future post when you hit the track.
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Originally Posted by Bruzewski
(Post 11428089)
Its a 4g64 destroked to 2.27! No sleeves.
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Originally Posted by batty200
(Post 11429183)
I guess no need to worry about cracking my block. Is it filled?
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Interesting interpretation. Keep shiny side up!
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Awesome build. Subscribed for the future updates.
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I had my CCW’s powder coated to match my new color scheme. They turned out awesome!
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps7bq0uhz0.jpg I also took the car to get an alignment as I had dropped the front sub frame to put in a sway bar. I found that the car had a s*** load of toe in. I wonder if that would have affected the HP readings on the dyno… http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps3aus17wq.jpg While I was there I got the drag tires mounted!! http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t...psgiyahqrp.jpg |
One of my favorite setup. car looks great
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Very nice. Enjoy the new numbers.
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Originally Posted by Bruzewski
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I love it when you say yea that felt fast.
Also what Tc are you running? |
Originally Posted by thepoint4life23
(Post 11432997)
I love it when you say yea that felt fast.
Also what Tc are you running? |
dam mate thats a tuff looking ride
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Clearly the parts combo is working well together. Congrats on the awesome numbers. What were the boost levels on the 6262?
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What Final Drive are you running?
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Got a chance to go to the track last weekend! The prep was really bad. haha. On the old setup I was getting high 1.4 60 foots on almost every pass. Well I was only getting 1.6-1.7 at national trails... The good news is the car went 152 mph! I never made a pass on high boost but I'm really pumped to get back out on a better track.
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Good ish. I wish I could get my 1/8 mph up to 114. Ill be out this Friday to try and get the 150mph trap also. Glad to see you enjoying the new build. Now get Greg's car fixed so you guys can hit the track again.
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Originally Posted by Bruzewski
(Post 11428089)
Its a 4g64 destroked to 2.27! No sleeves.
I have a feeling you are probably standard bore though. I notice your block is oringed. Mine is not. Mine is half filled though. My head is oringed though. Your graph looks amazing. |
Originally Posted by tscompusa
(Post 11449725)
Dave what bore are you using? I am at 87mm .020 over and I need some confidence to push mine :lol: My fear is getting it to the track then having it push coolant and take me into the wall. I am going to push my car extremely hard soon.
I have a feeling you are probably standard bore though. I notice your block is oringed. Mine is not. Mine is half filled though. My head is oringed though. Your graph looks amazing. Copper o-ring in the block. full wet block! |
Quite a nice build!! Just got the chance to look this over!!
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Holy crap, 152mph in the 1/4? Rocketship spec
- Renato |
The build came out spectacular! Your Evo 8 is a huge inspiration for my X. As a fellow Michigander and AMS supporter, I have to say that your build is second to none. Keep up the good good!
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Thanks guys!
I went back out to the track a few weeks ago and was able to get a 152.79 mph still havent ran full boost yet. Not sure the next time I'll be at the track. There are no races in June and July for some reason. |
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