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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 05:03 PM
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^ yup, seen him around before, that car is no joke.
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 05:44 PM
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Some day I hope to make a event with you guys. My ST-2 Evo has only 350whp with a stock 9 turbo, cosworth 272 cams and 650 injectors but weighs 3000lbs with driver dry. Kognition wing will be arriving soon.





looks like a real monster
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by zabes
heres the second green session http://youtu.be/4lLsGckJ4T8
Thank you so much for throwing this up! My girlfriend is thrilled someone caught her driving and I'm very glad to see her lines were okay. She was driving the white RS that gave the point by at 10:55.
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 05:57 PM
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^ i remember her coming through tech. glad she had fun.
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 06:52 PM
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Lies, there's no such thing as an evo with 230 whp, just not possible.
my first engine in the car what we blew at njmp last year , had 226 whp and was 3460lbs.
this year with a new engine 289 whp and just under 3200lbs.
the usable rpm is 3000-5800. other then that is dead, literally. you gotto like small restrictor plates. combined that with fairly soft suspension an almost stock hight

rally cars are trully one of the kind. also the max rally tire size for tarmac is 225 wide ;0 So when you go to rally cars nothing is impossible, and they are still Evo's
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 07:27 PM
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^ i was just saying that because it's hard to find an Evo that's not modified
although i do have a friend who probably has the only 100% stock Evo 9 in the US.
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 07:32 PM
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^ i was just saying that because it's hard to find an Evo that's not modified
although i do have a friend who probably has the only 100% stock Evo 9 in the US.
true on that
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 10:18 AM
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You were the most reckless driver I have ever seen on a road course. I wanted to kick you in the ballz.
I was the instructor chief at this event so this comment and the ensuing conversation here about it is really important to me. I was told about Semih's aggressive driving after the first session. I had a conversation with his instructor to make sure he (the instructor) was in control and he convinced me he was. I saw Semih pass with out a point by in the second session and had another conversation with the instructor. I did not hear any other reports of aggressive driving or passing without points. If I had, both Semih and the instructor would have been parked for the day. Period.

As a note for future events (ours or any other): If you see unsafe activity on the track you can not assume the right people are going to see it and must tell someone in charge.

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i still don't get how your first track day ever you can get soloed?
Every solo'd student was supposed to be authorized by me. Semih did NOT get my blessing to be solo'd. I am really quite furious that this occurred and apologize to the other drivers that were put in harms way...fortunately no one was wrecked or hurt.
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 10:52 AM
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I was the instructor chief at this event so this comment and the ensuing conversation here about it is really important to me. I was told about Semih's aggressive driving after the first session. I had a conversation with his instructor to make sure he (the instructor) was in control and he convinced me he was. I saw Semih pass with out a point by in the second session and had another conversation with the instructor. I did not hear any other reports of aggressive driving or passing without points. If I had, both Semih and the instructor would have been parked for the day. Period.

As a note for future events (ours or any other): If you see unsafe activity on the track you can not assume the right people are going to see it and must tell someone in charge.

Every solo'd student was supposed to be authorized by me. Semih did NOT get my blessing to be solo'd. I am really quite furious that this occurred and apologize to the other drivers that were put in harms way...fortunately no one was wrecked or hurt.
I apologize I was following instructions....I did everything he told me to do....if he said I could pass at certain points in passing lanes or sections I did....the one time I passed on left on the straightaway and I got flagged for it...that was my fault...besides that I was in check....I didn't put anyone in danger...passed in passing zones with a point by or when my instructor told me to take them....which I did....as for the solo run....i was out for less than half because i ran out of gas...and if I knew I needed to see you prior to that I would have....the guy teaching the class made it very clear. "YOUR INSTRUCTOR HAS FINAL SAY ON EVERYTHING WE TALK ABOUT IN CLASS" I figured you guys train the instructors and instruct them...so they can pass it along to us. I did everything he said to a T.....and thats why the teacher in the classroom said to do. People make stupid comments they cannot back up....I did not pay to go run the track to drive 10mph....and he still has not answered me...how was I wreckless? Why not make your smart comment to my face at the track lol? Internet Thug. If i was doing something wrong I need to know about it....besides one bad pass I was in line and in check....next time I will be sure to be in white or black so I can at least drive the way it was meant without being criticized....no one said a word to me at the track....all I got was that I was doing well...so well that he felt comfortable with me going solo for last run. I had my apexes down....my lines were fairly ok....I would love to know what was so wreckless you wanted to kick me in the ballz....I WOULD LOVE to hear that face to face. I was nothing but respectful when I responded. Don't talk **** without back-up....explain why you make your childish remarks sir. Grow up.

As for the lead instructor again sir I apologize if I knew I would have came to you trust me.....safety is key.....also as a newbie I have much to learn. I apologize....I followed my instructors instructions....period...as I was told to so in classroom.
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by robertg
You were the most reckless driver I have ever seen on a road course. I wanted to kick you in the ballz.
You ever going to explain why I was so wreckless besides making a high school comment? Why did you not walk up to me and say it? Got more ballz over internet? Why did you not tell Marc or lead guy? Don't make dumb remarks with no back-up....maybe its because you drive a wanna be EVO? Imao....welcome to track...its aggresive driving....just because you get passed every lap and can't keep up doesn't mean you should complain. Joke...
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Semih321
I apologize I was following instructions....I did everything he told me to do....if he said I could pass at certain points in passing lanes or sections I did....the one time I passed on left on the straightaway and I got flagged for it...that was my fault...besides that I was in check....I didn't put anyone in danger...passed in passing zones with a point by or when my instructor told me to take them....which I did....as for the solo run....i was out for less than half because i ran out of gas...and if I knew I needed to see you prior to that I would have....the guy teaching the class made it very clear. "YOUR INSTRUCTOR HAS FINAL SAY ON EVERYTHING WE TALK ABOUT IN CLASS" I figured you guys train the instructors and instruct them...so they can pass it along to us. I did everything he said to a T.....and thats why the teacher in the classroom said to do. People make stupid comments they cannot back up....I did not pay to go run the track to drive 10mph....and he still has not answered me...how was I wreckless? Why not make your smart comment to my face at the track lol? Internet Thug. If i was doing something wrong I need to know about it....besides one bad pass I was in line and in check....next time I will be sure to be in white or black so I can at least drive the way it was meant without being criticized....no one said a word to me at the track....all I got was that I was doing well...so well that he felt comfortable with me going solo for last run. I had my apexes down....my lines were fairly ok....I would love to know what was so wreckless you wanted to kick me in the ballz....I WOULD LOVE to hear that face to face. I was nothing but respectful when I responded. Don't talk **** without back-up....explain why you make your childish remarks sir. Grow up.

As for the lead instructor again sir I apologize if I knew I would have came to you trust me.....safety is key.....also as a newbie I have much to learn. I apologize....I followed my instructors instructions....period...as I was told to so in classroom.
Don't take this the wrong way but based on the bulk of this response, i would say you are definitely not ready to be moved up a group. The rate at which everything is coming at you is big step up from what it is in a beginner group.

With this being a private event, all the instructors there volunteered their time to instruct us. At no point is anyone saying that they want you run the track at 10mph, but some feel that your instructor should have reigned you in a bit more, I can't really comment on that since I wasn't for the most part near you during the two sessions i ran with the green group.

From the sound of it, there may have been some mixup between your instructor and the chief instructor as to your status and i can sympathize with that. No need to get all defensive about it, people are just stating what they know.






ps. its reckless not wreckless

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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 11:37 AM
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You ever going to explain why I was so wreckless besides making a high school comment? Why did you not walk up to me and say it? Got more ballz over internet? Why did you not tell Marc or lead guy? Don't make dumb remarks with no back-up....maybe its because you drive a wanna be EVO? Imao....welcome to track...its aggresive driving....just because you get passed every lap and can't keep up doesn't mean you should complain. Joke...
K for your information, *******, I have seen a lion. And not one of your crap *** queen of the jungle homoerotic *****-cat lions. A real lion, with fangs and horns and wings and ****. Don't pull your ****ing wierd *** african voodoo hypnosis crap on me when you don't even know wtf you're talking about.
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 11:40 AM
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I don't know who your instructor was, but I don't think they should have been telling you to pass without a point-by. I've driven many laps behind people who don't know how to use thier mirrors, and never once have I passed them without them telling me to do so. Has it ruined sessions for me, yes. Have I been really pissed about it afterwards, yes.

The reality is you're not the only one out there, when you start driving like you are, bad things can happen.

I had a chat with someone after our first session, he thought I had pointed him by, but in reality I never saw him till he was already besides me and going down the inside. I spoke with him about it right afterwards, and we worked it out. That is the best thing to do.
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 11:51 AM
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As for the lead instructor again sir I apologize if I knew I would have came to you trust me.....safety is key.....also as a newbie I have much to learn. I apologize....I followed my instructors instructions....period...as I was told to so in classroom.
I appreciate that you were doing what you were told, that is good--the instructor was not doing what he was told. It was not your responsibility to approach me about being solo'd, it was your instructors--and the pit controller shouldn't have let you out without an instructor. What I take away from this is your instructor did not have proper control over your driving--this instructor will not be a member of any instructor cadre I put together again.

Honestly, I have as much concern that no one came to me or Marc and said "that guy is reckless!" as I do for the poor in-car instruction you received. The other instructors were told by me at the instructor's meeting to tell me of any dangerous driving. Every driver should have been told the same thing at the general meeting. If not...here is your standing order for any track day anyone ever attends: If you see a dangerous act on the track, tell an official so they can address the problem.

All this doesn't mean you are a bad driver, but it does not mean you are qualified to go solo or deserve a bump in run group (that's not going to happen). You have a lot to learn yet. I get that you are enthusiastic and want to race and to "drive flat out", but this and any other HPDE is not the venue for that. Hopefully next time you are at an event you can get a better instructor and learn more.
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Semih321
You ever going to explain why I was so wreckless besides making a high school comment? Why did you not walk up to me and say it? Got more ballz over internet? Why did you not tell Marc or lead guy? Don't make dumb remarks with no back-up....maybe its because you drive a wanna be EVO? Imao....welcome to track...its aggresive driving....just because you get passed every lap and can't keep up doesn't mean you should complain. Joke...
i dont think i meet or talk to you at the track and it's hard to tell if someone is joking over the internet. i can tell you that this is a wrong attitude to have if you're going to continue to attend track events. aggressive driving is what going to put people into the wall. i've seen many aggressive drivers who drive over their limits and it didn't end up well. it's about car control, consistency and predictability. this wasn't a race or competition event (although we do JOKE around with the word Domination), so there's no need to try and break track records. if your instructor felt that you have the pace and track awareness to move up to the next run group, then that should have happen instead of you intimidating other drivers in the green group. i hope your attitude change because i don't want to see you or anyone else get hurt on track.
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