how come it didnt have the garret on it then...or does only buschur do that

 

The intercooler we custom made for this customer (Suman) per his request did use a Garrett core, that's the point ETS core is only available in 4" and 5" thicknesses and the 4.5" intercooler we custom built for Suman used a Garrett part number 703522-6005 which is a 24x12x4.5". Here's a link to Garrett's catalog for reference:

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...tercoolers.htm

We purchase our Garrett core exclusively from authorized distributors (ATP Turbo and Precision Turbo & Engine). I'm not sure what markings on the core are being referred to in the video to indicate that we used fake Garrett core, but here is a picture of genuine Garrett core taken directly from Precision Turbo & Engine's website for reference as well:



Tom

 

no way, atleast not over the BR FMIC or any other factory replacement style intercooler. Fitment and function aside, all those intercoolers leave alot on the table interms of endtank design....IMO.

 

Please elaborate...

 

Try the same size from X brand? see if difference . Id like to see if just the fact of it being a smaller intercooler makes a difference .

 

Tom you quoted me and said you find it odd I didn't notice what core you used. I never saw the intercooler nor did I know that Suman bought our race FMIC and I didn't know Al was doing the test. So it would be very difficult for me to notice anything.

You must be a very fast fabricator and fast at sourcing parts though. The story I got was Suman called you in the late afternoon one day and he had this "custom one off piece" (as you called it) to him the very next day. That's great service.

Al also noted in the video the core/fin design looked different, so I don't know what you used, it did not have the typical Garrett scribing on the core though, maybe you ground that off? I don't know.

I didn't start the thread, do the testing, see the parts. I am not surprised with the outcome of the test though.

You had posted not to long ago a long detailed story about the intercooler core testing you did and said you didn't use Garrett cores, only something else (Modine?) because you found them to be the best. Something along those lines, I didn't study what you posted, I skimmed through it. Why would you build someone an inferior product with a Garrett core if you didn't find that core to be the best? That is confusing to me.

Have a great day.

 

David just ordered your race core. No need to look further since it is proven numerous times and i already have my car loaded with Buschur products mostly...

I am pretty sure it will cover my needs since i dont intend to go bigger than HTA35R next year...

 

A modular intercooler (Factory style fitment) is limited in endtank design because of fitment issues. If the same core is truly used, then results should be the same as neither endtank design has an advantage over the other. I beleive endtank design is important, however a custom FMIC is expensive, time consuming and isn't always a bolt on piece. The average consumer has a street car, doesn't weld or want to cut/hack/grind, direct fit is nice and easy and the sacrafise is minimal. As for cores, a 4.5 or 5" core is not needed on a street car, we've made 900+ on a 3.5 Garrett core with good IAT's (in 110deg weather). Anyone that offers there FMIC's with a Garrett core is offering a quality part.

 

David,
Fair enough

We can, though, turn an intercooler quickly (just a few hours) when that dept. in our shop is caught up. Our shop is set up purely for manufacturing since we don't work on customer cars, thus our timeline when we're not behind is very good, so thank you. Right now we're not quite so speedy, but doing our best to keep on top of the work!

When we are out of our core in a certain size we'll typically order in a bunch of Garrett core in that size or close because we feel it to be the next best thing. That is typically out of necessity because our customers would rather have a different core than cancel their order to purchase a different intercooler altogether, or wait. In this case the Garrett 4.5" to fill in for our 4". Our EVO core starts 36" tall and is cut into three units and each top/bottom plated once complete. We obviously plate them for cleanliness of exterior appearance, so it's definitely possible that the Garrett core cooler received the same treatment.

I'd bet that the post to which you're referring I mentioned how we've used all of the big name cores in the past, to include Garrett, Bell, Modine, Spearco, etc. and developed ours to improve upon the weaknesses of each. Of those big names we agree with you that the Garrett is best next to the core that we've spec'd. It makes very few compromises and is a great core.

Given that, I'm very surprised to find that Al was unable to get temps under control with a Garrett core intercooler. I'd imagine you would expect different results as well. We'll have to put together a test this winter when the orders slow down a bit and the shop can catch up enough to run that on the dyno. We'd expect great results from both our core and the Garrett in a back to back test.

Tom

 

Folks sometimes ask what the Race FMIC looks like mounted. Here is a good shot of mine on my Evo 8 front-end

 

Thanks Ozzie!

Here was mine with no front bumper.

 

and here is mine almost 2 years later with a 9 front end



and I love it

 

installed the race core myself! amazing unit i have to say!!!

 

All you guy's posting sexy BR IC pics, Me being the pic ***** that I am must get in the action...

 

Nice! EVOm has just been bombed with BR Race FMIC pictures!!

Seriously, thanks for posting up the pictures.

The red i/c pipes look good, is that paint or powder coat?

What kind of front end is on the last picture? Looks mean.