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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 10:42 PM
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Buttonwillow is the place to be. It's a notch above streets of willow, much faster, and a hell of a lot more fun. I had some Endless CCR's and there not streetable, trust me it sounds like a train stoping. They were quiet only if you brake really really hard. Normal street stops would be so loud it was unbearable.
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 10:45 PM
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Buttonwillow is the place to be. It's a notch above streets of willow, much faster, and a hell of a lot more fun. I had some Endless CCR's and there not streetable, trust me it sounds like a train stoping. They were quiet only if you brake really really hard. Normal street stops would be so loud it was unbearable.
I was running the pads at streets of willow and can't imagine how bad it would have been if I had gone to B/W instead How much did the CCR's run you?
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by l888apex
I was running the pads at streets of willow and can't imagine how bad it would have been if I had gone to B/W instead How much did the CCR's run you?
I had the CCR's on the Evo 8, it was a few years back they cost me about 200-250 I dont remember. I like the factory pads they have little fade even on buttonwillow. 13 CW is the s#hit.
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 11:19 PM
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I had the CCR's on the Evo 8, it was a few years back they cost me about 200-250 I dont remember. I like the factory pads they have little fade even on buttonwillow. 13 CW is the s#hit.
stock power on your X or no?
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 11:40 PM
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Dang, what's the closest pad to OEM? I'm happy with them, but the price sucks.
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 07:18 AM
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Having extensive exp. with Racing Brake pads and rotors with their ET500, ET800 and ET900 I will share my exp.

I have run both the 800 and 900 on track no issues got multiple sessions no issues with bite. I use the 800 for daily use great pad.

Others that have used on brake heavy tracks are not friendly to the RB compounds, they have recently change the classification of the Motorsports series pad to a street pad due to complaints and issues with longevity.

Essentially once they got over their operation temps and exceeded they would melt like butter. I find different drivers that are more fluid with their braking and not constantly on top of them have less issues with them.

Remeber the ET800 are good up to 1400°F and will not fade, the ET900 up to 1600°F which is the same as the Hawk DTC-70 temps

People really need to evaluate what temps their brake pads and rotors see on track, people monitor tire temps they should also be aware of their braking which is just as important. Granted alot of people think they are crap, I think the end user needs to make the correct choice of pad for the application they are using.

Racing Brake has the best customer service I have ever seen period.
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Optiblue
Dang, what's the closest pad to OEM? I'm happy with them, but the price sucks.
For the money and performance, I find my Stoptech Street performance/Axxis Ultimate to be very comparable to OEM. The OEM ones were ok, nothing awesome, and did have some fade, but nothing too scary. The Stoptech's are a lot cheaper, but squeal as they heat up. NO fade at HPDEs though running Dunlop Z1's and only a little more power via the TBE. Remember, as others say, tires affect brakes wear and tear (and heat); and so does HP. If you're running significantly more power than stock, you should run street DD pads carefully when at the track.

The stoptech's have about the same dust and squeal properties as OEM too, good or bad, you decide

I now run DTC-60's for the track; the noise of the high performance street pads was annoying and un-inspiring. IMO, its probably a good thing to buy separate pads for the different track/street uses.
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by OBP
Having extensive exp. with Racing Brake pads and rotors with their ET500, ET800 and ET900 I will share my exp.

I have run both the 800 and 900 on track no issues got multiple sessions no issues with bite. I use the 800 for daily use great pad.

Others that have used on brake heavy tracks are not friendly to the RB compounds, they have recently change the classification of the Motorsports series pad to a street pad due to complaints and issues with longevity.

Essentially once they got over their operation temps and exceeded they would melt like butter. I find different drivers that are more fluid with their braking and not constantly on top of them have less issues with them.

Remeber the ET800 are good up to 1400°F and will not fade, the ET900 up to 1600°F which is the same as the Hawk DTC-70 temps

People really need to evaluate what temps their brake pads and rotors see on track, people monitor tire temps they should also be aware of their braking which is just as important. Granted alot of people think they are crap, I think the end user needs to make the correct choice of pad for the application they are using.Racing Brake has the best customer service I have ever seen period.
I totally agree with that statement. Brakes are such a subjective topic, and it really does come down to the driver to make the decision.

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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 10:43 AM
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Thank You OBP !! Glad to have somebody elses positive comments about the ET-Pads. MPG
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 01:53 PM
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I have to agree with the other people about the DS2500. On a track day is a big mistake. It simply can not take the heat and falls apart.

I have had good luck with the Project Mu HC+. I've gotten 5 track days from my last set and they are pretty quiet on the street. Much higher temp range than the DS2500 - the HC+ goes to 1500 degrees. That is quite incredible for a street pad. I'm on my 2nd set now.

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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ZK
I have to agree with the other people about the DS2500. On a track day is a big mistake. It simply can not take the heat and falls apart.

I have had good luck with the Project Mu HC+. I've gotten 5 track days from my last set and they are pretty quiet on the street. Much higher temp range than the DS2500 - the HC+ goes to 1500 degrees. That is quite incredible for a street pad. I'm on my 2nd set now.
hmmm I'll check those out too since they aren't too pricey

I'll get some braking ducting on the car hopefully by my next track day as well
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by l888apex
stock power on your X or no?
I have a HB Speed tune, UR TBE, drop in air filter.
My numbers 335 AWHP, 350.0 ft-lbs torque, 24 psi.
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 01:48 PM
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OBP, thanks for your input. I guess the issue I (still) have with the ET800 is that Racing Brake lists the pads as-

  • For advanced high speed driving events
  • Excellent heat characteristics and brake modulation
  • Occasional squeaking may occur at slow speeds before stopping
above from http://www.racingbrake.com/v/main/rb_pads.asp#chart

Regardless, the ET800 is not the right pad for me. Anyone who is looking for a track day pad should take the first bullet in the application with a grain of salt and strongly consider selecting a tried-and-true pad (PF-01, DTC-70, etc).
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 02:27 PM
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The ET-300/500/800 are NOT track compound brake pads. We have used the ET-500 and the ET-800 on track with great results...PROVIDED...you do not exceed the temp capability of the compound. Once you exceed the capability of the compound the pad will wear VERY quickly. The full weight Evo IX MR can still get an average of 2 track days (on R-comps) from a set of ET-800 (4/5 20min track sessions a day) with a driver that is used to the ET-800 pad. If you are looking for a dedicated TRACK pad that is much more aggressive than the ET-800, Hawk and others have great selections, and with the more aggressive compounds there are other issues that will probably start--warping/cracking rotors-Boiling brake fluid- possible total brake system loss from overheating. (not fun at all). BUT for 85% of all the Evo drivers out there the ET-pad line will work just fine with minimal headaches for the driver. MPG
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mrMTB
Anyone who is looking for a track day pad should take the first bullet in the application with a grain of salt and strongly consider selecting a tried-and-true pad (PF-01, DTC-70, etc).
Based on a competitive TTA/TTB Evo IX driver's personal recommendation, and a SUPER sale this summer, I picked up the DTC-60's. The torque modulation is pretty easy to learn as my first track pads. The advice on the DTC-70's from the experienced racer was that they were too torquey for his tastes and tended to upset the vehicle more easily.

Hawk was "hawking" the DTC-60's at all of their distributors it looked like, so a full racing F + R brake setup was just at $420-- Too good to pass up.
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