Evo X - Battery Replacement
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Evo X - Battery Replacement
This is turning out to be way more complicated than it should be....
The stock battery has venting, which is difficult to find a non-OEM replacement for apparently. The dealership will sell me an OEM one for $343, no thanks. I've done some research and it appears many replace theirs with a sealed AGM battery. It sounds like there is a very minor risk of not venting potential fumes.
I called AMS on the mini batteries and they didn't recommend them if not used frequently. My car is not a DD and is stored over the winter.
It looks like many have switched to the red top with mixed results. I even looked up the Braille batteries which seem great (and you pay for greatness) but there isn't a dealer nearby. My car comes off winter storage this Friday and I really need a safe battery to get it on the road.
Help! If you have a recommendation, please include the product specifics - group#, part#, etc.
The stock battery has venting, which is difficult to find a non-OEM replacement for apparently. The dealership will sell me an OEM one for $343, no thanks. I've done some research and it appears many replace theirs with a sealed AGM battery. It sounds like there is a very minor risk of not venting potential fumes.
I called AMS on the mini batteries and they didn't recommend them if not used frequently. My car is not a DD and is stored over the winter.
It looks like many have switched to the red top with mixed results. I even looked up the Braille batteries which seem great (and you pay for greatness) but there isn't a dealer nearby. My car comes off winter storage this Friday and I really need a safe battery to get it on the road.
Help! If you have a recommendation, please include the product specifics - group#, part#, etc.
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When I look at Optima's website in put in the vehicle parameters for the 2.0L it shows a red top but stats 'Exc EVO'. Is there a specific one or do you just use that one?
It also says it requires a 'bottom height adapter'. Did yours fit in the stock tray in the trunk?
Thanks!
It also says it requires a 'bottom height adapter'. Did yours fit in the stock tray in the trunk?
Thanks!
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Same here. Been over 2 years with tge red top. Use to be my DD. Not anymore. Didn't move all winter. Fired right up when I needed/wanted it to.
Edit. Info. Optima P/N: ALE08FB1X01, Mdl # SC34MT. With gas vent tube capability. Runs $300-$260. The non vent tube version Optima Red Top replacement is P/N: 8020-164. Runs $180-$140 .
I have the ALE. Fits in stock tray. Not using any type of adapter.
Edit. Info. Optima P/N: ALE08FB1X01, Mdl # SC34MT. With gas vent tube capability. Runs $300-$260. The non vent tube version Optima Red Top replacement is P/N: 8020-164. Runs $180-$140 .
I have the ALE. Fits in stock tray. Not using any type of adapter.
Last edited by .M.; Mar 29, 2016 at 04:15 PM.
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Same here. Been over 2 years with tge red top. Use to be my DD. Not anymore. Didn't move all winter. Fired right up when I needed/wanted it to.
Edit. Info. Optima P/N: ALE08FB1X01, Mdl # SC34MT. With gas vent tube capability. Runs $300-$260. The non vent tube version Optima Red Top replacement is P/N: 8020-164. Runs $180-$140 .
I have the ALE. Fits in stock tray. Not using any type of adapter.
Edit. Info. Optima P/N: ALE08FB1X01, Mdl # SC34MT. With gas vent tube capability. Runs $300-$260. The non vent tube version Optima Red Top replacement is P/N: 8020-164. Runs $180-$140 .
I have the ALE. Fits in stock tray. Not using any type of adapter.
unfortunately, i can't find anywhere to order this battery online, even using that pn.
does anyone know of a website/URL where i can buy the correct optima battery with compatibility with the stock venting tube?
thanks!
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Why do you need your AGM battery to be vented? AGM batteries are normally sealed. They do have a venting system integrated into the case top but it is not normally venting. In the event of an overcharge condition, it is possible for excess pressure to build up inside your battery. AGM batteries are equipped with check valves that are engineered to open at between 2-3 PSI depending upon the specific brand. What will be expelled is hydrogen gas, and you want to vent that as it is quite explosive.
The good news here is that hydrogen mixes with air very readily and so not too much ventilation is required. The trunk/cabin space in an Evo is not tightly sealed so unless you leave the battery on a charger for a long time or have a seriously issue with your alternator, you'll probably be fine.
The good news here is that hydrogen mixes with air very readily and so not too much ventilation is required. The trunk/cabin space in an Evo is not tightly sealed so unless you leave the battery on a charger for a long time or have a seriously issue with your alternator, you'll probably be fine.
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Why do you need your AGM battery to be vented? AGM batteries are normally sealed. They do have a venting system integrated into the case top but it is not normally venting. In the event of an overcharge condition, it is possible for excess pressure to build up inside your battery. AGM batteries are equipped with check valves that are engineered to open at between 2-3 PSI depending upon the specific brand. What will be expelled is hydrogen gas, and you want to vent that as it is quite explosive.
The good news here is that hydrogen mixes with air very readily and so not too much ventilation is required. The trunk/cabin space in an Evo is not tightly sealed so unless you leave the battery on a charger for a long time or have a seriously issue with your alternator, you'll probably be fine.
The good news here is that hydrogen mixes with air very readily and so not too much ventilation is required. The trunk/cabin space in an Evo is not tightly sealed so unless you leave the battery on a charger for a long time or have a seriously issue with your alternator, you'll probably be fine.
I did find a thread that had an Optima rep chime in:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ml#post8722576
Basically he confirmed what you said above except that he ended with saying we should use a battery with a hose hookup still, just in case.
But, I guess you all already use the rep top without the hose?
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Thanks man for the explanation.
I did find a thread that had an Optima rep chime in:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ml#post8722576
Basically he confirmed what you said above except that he ended with saying we should use a battery with a hose hookup still, just in case.
But, I guess you all already use the rep top without the hose?
I did find a thread that had an Optima rep chime in:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ml#post8722576
Basically he confirmed what you said above except that he ended with saying we should use a battery with a hose hookup still, just in case.
But, I guess you all already use the rep top without the hose?
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Holy crap. You guys paid a ton of money for a replacement.
All I did was take measurements of the stock Panasonic battery and then go to Advance Auto parts.
Once there they had a plethora of normal non-vented and vented batteries (remember a lot of BMW and Mercedes and even the Miata have vented non-under the hood batteries). I chose one of the vented batteries and its dimensions were IDENTICAL to the stock Panasonic.
I ended spending about $160 for the battery and all I had to do was swap the location of the plastic nipple from the right to the left side.
If you guys want a picture for the exact battery I have, I can supply one later.
All I did was take measurements of the stock Panasonic battery and then go to Advance Auto parts.
Once there they had a plethora of normal non-vented and vented batteries (remember a lot of BMW and Mercedes and even the Miata have vented non-under the hood batteries). I chose one of the vented batteries and its dimensions were IDENTICAL to the stock Panasonic.
I ended spending about $160 for the battery and all I had to do was swap the location of the plastic nipple from the right to the left side.
If you guys want a picture for the exact battery I have, I can supply one later.