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does this boost curve seem normal to you?

Old Nov 18, 2017, 12:45 AM
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does this boost curve seem normal to you?

Hi everyone, im currently tuning my car and my tuner opened my eyes on something, check out this boost curve



look at the dip after initial boost. sometimes i can feel it on partial throttle as well (like 8 psi or so). car has stock motor stock turbo stock cams, bolt ons only, and a Grimmspeed EBCS. did a boost leak test, fixed them all, tested the wastegate actuator with a bicycle pump, it "Started" opening at ~14PSI opens fully at like 15 or 16 psi.

any suggestion or ideas?
your help is much appreciated.
Old Nov 21, 2017, 03:11 AM
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261 Views and no response, come in guys i need some help.
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It all depends on the tune. If boost correction is turned on and the car sees a spike, it will do what you are seeing. It all depends on your boost targets and the car. Also, the taper is normal on a stock turbo Evo X.
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Originally Posted by splattj
It all depends on the tune. If boost correction is turned on and the car sees a spike, it will do what you are seeing. It all depends on your boost targets and the car. Also, the taper is normal on a stock turbo Evo X.
Yeah after 5000 rpm is fine i understand that this is what the stock turbo like, but that dip is concerning me since my tuner is asking me about it, is there somthing mechanically i could check? As far as i can tell the WGDC correction when i log is always 0.
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Totally normal for stock turbo and stock wga.
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yeah, watched my boost spike to 28psi on my MR when i mash that gas then dip for a sec due to correction then clime again before the normal taper.....
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Originally Posted by EVOX84
yeah, watched my boost spike to 28psi on my MR when i mash that gas then dip for a sec due to correction then clime again before the normal taper.....
Yeah but the correction are 0 with me, so its not it i guess.
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Originally Posted by khaled_hourani
Yeah but the correction are 0 with me, so its not it i guess.
what are you AFRs during the dip?
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Originally Posted by EVOX84
what are you AFRs during the dip?
Around ~11.4, it does not get richer during the dip if thats what u mean.
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Originally Posted by khaled_hourani
Around ~11.4, it does not get richer during the dip if thats what u mean.
HMMM have you tested you BOV yet?
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Originally Posted by EVOX84
HMMM have you tested you BOV yet?
I didn't exactly test the bov itself, just a normal boost leak test, but i did swap it with hks ssqv4, and the same thing happens.

Also i did notice today when i hold the RPM on 5k on forth gear then go WOT it does the same dip, goes down to 22 then 25 then tapers 21 at 7k. I really don't think this is normal behavior.
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Originally Posted by khaled_hourani
I really don't think this is normal behavior.
I can show you 50+ datalogs of 50+ different evos with the same behavior.
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Originally Posted by razorlab
I can show you 50+ datalogs of 50+ different evos with the same behavior.
Please show me one, it will help alot.
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Originally Posted by khaled_hourani
Please show me one, it will help alot.
Here you go




and another:




and another:


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Originally Posted by razorlab
Here you go




and another:




and another:


the first one seem normal, but the one in the middle looks exactly like mine. can you share the log files as well, i also attached mine for information.
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