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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 05:46 AM
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To TTP: You guys able to flash X's yet? Driving to Orlando is closer than driving to Ohio or Chicago.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 04AWDTURBOEVO
What was the time and mph on the 1/4 mile test you performed in the end?
You did not post the time.

Did it run 120 + mph?

I don't think it is possible for this car to be making more power than my 20G turbo car. Specially on a Mustang Dyno with the stock turbo.https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/im...e_thumbsup.gif


I challenge the car for a couple of runs, dyno/other.

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Get dyno'd at TTP to see where you're at on the Mustang Dyno. Then try a 1/4 mile run.
Once you have those baseline numbers, have Scott tune it.
After you make the power with his tune, you can then (if you wish) revert to your other tune and see where the differences were at.
I think this would be a truer challenge.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 07:41 AM
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help me define the meaning of refleshing your ecu and what does it do to help your car ( all I have is a short ram intake, exhaust and thats about it but soon i'll have more stuff in.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 04AWDTURBOEVO
What was the time and mph on the 1/4 mile test you performed in the end?
You did not post the time.

Did it run 120 + mph?

I don't think it is possible for this car to be making more power than my 20G turbo car. Specially on a Mustang Dyno with the stock turbo.

I challenge the car for a couple of runs, dyno/other.

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You are welcome to come bring in your Evo and put your super secret concoction of racefuel to the test to see what numbers yours put down.

We spoke about this before and the offer is still open.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by HugoEvoIXMR
Get dyno'd at TTP to see where you're at on the Mustang Dyno. Then try a 1/4 mile run.
Once you have those baseline numbers, have Scott tune it.
After you make the power with his tune, you can then (if you wish) revert to your other tune and see where the differences were at.
I think this would be a truer challenge.
Hugo, you must not know Manie, I don't think he'll let Scott tune his car, but I do think Manie will go on the Dyno. He's not affraid.
Originally Posted by 04AWDTURBOEVO
What was the time and mph on the 1/4 mile test you performed in the end?
You did not post the time.

Did it run 120 + mph?

I don't think it is possible for this car to be making more power than my 20G turbo car. Specially on a Mustang Dyno with the stock turbo.

I challenge the car for a couple of runs, dyno/other.

MP
Manie, if you load onto those rollers I will go and watch this, it is my guess and by others on this forum, that this MD reads more like a DJ. If you go onto it and make 415 or less, then I'll be shocked and you know which Dyno I'm referring to.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LilRico
Hugo, you must not know Manie, I don't think he'll let Scott tune his car, but I do think Manie will go on the Dyno. He's not affraid.


Manie, if you load onto those rollers I will go and watch this, it is my guess and by others on this forum, that this MD reads more like a DJ. If you go onto it and make 415 or less, then I'll be shocked and you know which Dyno I'm referring to.
I really do not think that 04AWDturboEvo needs a spokesperson.

Our dyno reads like a Mustang Dyno, um BECAUSE IT IS A MUSTANG DYNO and was factory calibrated by Ron Phillips at Mustang. MustangDyne spent a week insuring that the unit was set up and working correctly, calibrated correctly, sent three gentlemen over to work on it and get the awd belt lined up correctly.

Please stop your slanderous comments about our dyno as there is no factual basis for you claim other than to defame a vendor's facility because said company's facility is your tuner's competitor.

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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by just1nce
help me define the meaning of refleshing your ecu and what does it do to help your car ( all I have is a short ram intake, exhaust and thats about it but soon i'll have more stuff in.
It is the process of recalibrating vehicle parameters in the ecu. Doing this optimizes the performance of the car. In your case adding those mods affects the original calibration of ecu and thus will either hinder or not take full potential of mods.

Let us know if you have any other questions.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by LilRico
Hugo, you must not know Manie, I don't think he'll let Scott tune his car, but I do think Manie will go on the Dyno. He's not affraid.


Manie, if you load onto those rollers I will go and watch this, it is my guess and by others on this forum, that this MD reads more like a DJ. If you go onto it and make 415 or less, then I'll be shocked and you know which Dyno I'm referring to.

Have only met Manie once at CFT's dyno day. Don't know him that well but he did take some nice pics if I remember correctly.
As for him or anyone else coming onto TTP's Dyno, well, I believe everyone would be for it. And everyone knows I'm very unbiased as I get along with everyone. When it comes to being tuned, we are all careful about our decisions based on many different reasons. That being said, you always have the option of inviting your tuner to where you'll be dyno'd at.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 09:35 AM
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by just1nce
help me define the meaning of refleshing your ecu and what does it do to help your car ( all I have is a short ram intake, exhaust and thats about it but soon i'll have more stuff in.
"The calibration of your ecu" does not change.

Your ECU is programmed at the factory to inject X amount of fuel with Y degrees of ignition advance at RPMxLOAD intervals. This works nicely as long as you do not modify the vehicle.

Even in stock trim, the vehicle's fueling and ignition programming leaves much performance optimization on the table as the engineers and bean counters have taken into account the wide geographic market the vehicle is being sold in.

Imagine a vehicle in Arizona's 120* dry heat also being sold in Anchorage, Alaska. There is quite a difference in weather. The maximum octane sold in Alaska is 90. The factory ECU in its conservative configuration is tuned with enough safety margin to compensate for the changes in octane and weather.

Once you purchased your car and are settled into your geographic home, you are able to have your ECU reflashed to optimize the safe limits of fueling and ignition advance programming in the ECU that suits your octane, humidity and altitude for your location. Improvements in gas mileage, performance HP and TQ can be obtained via reflashing the ECU.

Once you begin to modify your car with said INTAKE. You have now changed the VE of the engine as well as the karman vortex signal to the air mass sensor, a sensor the engine's ECU relies on in order to calculate airflow and "load". This figure is used by the ecu to determine how much fuel and ignition advance to give the engine based on the RPMxLOAD axis we mentioned earlier.

When you modify the engine components, you change the way the ECU sees the data and it requires reprogramming of the load cells within the ecu to match the modifications and karman vortex signal the air mass sensor is feeding the ECU.

Certain modifications will do little to nothing to affect the signals and data, but some influence this drastically, such as your AEM short ram intake.

We recommend anyone with a conical intake, to have the engine ECU reflashed "reprogrammed" in order to maximize the gains the modification has to offer.

If you have any questions that were not covered here, please send us a PM or give us a call at the shop 407-475-0010.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 01:27 PM
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lol..pm sponge cake recipe...lol

I didn't say the mods change the calbration I said the mods affect it. Reading comprehension rules.

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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by HugoEvoIXMR
Get dyno'd at TTP to see where you're at on the Mustang Dyno. Then try a 1/4 mile run.
Once you have those baseline numbers, have Scott tune it.
After you make the power with his tune, you can then (if you wish) revert to your other tune and see where the differences were.
I think this would be a truer challenge.
Hugo, no need Me to start from scratch in this case.
What you propose is very good for someone just starting out. Not for a veteran like me.

Certainly not for my Evo.

I have been tru many challenges, the one you mention above was one of my very first ones. A few years ago.
Since then, I now look for harder challenges, still waiting for someone to step up in my class, and force me to a higher level.

Three/four years later, my VIII still strong, thanks in part to the Titan crew, good friends, and one hell of a tuner we all know as, Jester.

At the CFT Dyno last month, my Evo still made 400 plus whp at 7100 rpms there, at just 31 psi.

The car is capable of 34~37 psi. But I was only there for 2 pulls that day.
It is hard to improve on those numbers, Man. 11.4 in the ¼ mile , 120 plus mph traps, screaming tires all 1st gear, full weight car, etc.

I will try to make it to the TTP-Dyno day very late on the day. I may put some race fuel in the car.

May be after I give you a ride like so, then you can change your mind about changing things on the car like you think.

It even has the same Cam gear settings that Scott put in there nearly 2 years ago. I refuse to change anything.
It is that perfect.

Scott has invited me, so I got to go to his grand opening for a few. I want to be there for a bit for his shop warming opening.

I have been to all the grand openings in our area. Becasue I support all. Some a little, and some alot.


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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 06:43 PM
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maybe i should put my car in those rollers to see what i do on my RG map
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 04AWDTURBOEVO


Hugo, no need Me to start from scratch in this case.
What you propose is very good for someone just starting out. Not for a veteran like me.

Certainly not for my Evo.

I have been tru many challenges, the one you mention above was one of my very first ones. A few years ago.
Since then, I now look for harder challenges, still waiting for someone to step up in my class, and force me to a higher level.

Three/four years later, my VIII still strong, thanks in part to the Titan crew, good friends, and one hell of a tuner we all know as, Jester.

At the CFT Dyno last month, my Evo still made 400 plus whp at 7100 rpms there, at just 31 psi.

The car is capable of 34~37 psi. But I was only there for 2 pulls that day.
It is hard to improve on those numbers, Man. 11.4 in the ¼ mile , 120 plus mph traps, screaming tires all 1st gear, full weight car, etc.

I will try to make it to the TTP-Dyno day very late on the day. I may put some race fuel in the car.

May be after I give you a ride like so, then you can change your mind about changing things on the car like you think.

It even has the same Cam gear settings that Scott put in there nearly 2 years ago. I refuse to change anything.
It is that perfect.

Scott has invited me, so I got to go to his grand opening for a few. I want to be there for a bit for his shop warming opening.

I have been to all the grand openings in our area. Becasue I support all. Some a little, and some alot.


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Would be great to have you here Manie.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 07:50 PM
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Hey TTP where exactly are you located and waht do you charge, if you don't mind me asking?
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